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Diabetics, and Fats in the diet

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CaliSally

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Taking off from another thread.
Lindsey, this is something I have been wondering about and keep forgetting to ask the dr. And I thought you in particular might be able to shed some light for us diabetics.

I read what you said about Fats causing a delayed spike, which I know about.
But how many servings are considered within the balanced meal vs. too much (thereby causing a spike)?
How do you adjust your insulin intake with a higher fat meal?
(I don't normally eat high fat meal, but it happens from time to time.)

thanks for any input from you or others ...
 
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CaliSally

New member
Taking off from another thread.
Lindsey, this is something I have been wondering about and keep forgetting to ask the dr. And I thought you in particular might be able to shed some light for us diabetics.

I read what you said about Fats causing a delayed spike, which I know about.
But how many servings are considered within the balanced meal vs. too much (thereby causing a spike)?
How do you adjust your insulin intake with a higher fat meal?
(I don't normally eat high fat meal, but it happens from time to time.)

thanks for any input from you or others ...
 
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CaliSally

New member
Taking off from another thread.
Lindsey, this is something I have been wondering about and keep forgetting to ask the dr. And I thought you in particular might be able to shed some light for us diabetics.

I read what you said about Fats causing a delayed spike, which I know about.
But how many servings are considered within the balanced meal vs. too much (thereby causing a spike)?
How do you adjust your insulin intake with a higher fat meal?
(I don't normally eat high fat meal, but it happens from time to time.)

thanks for any input from you or others ...
 
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CaliSally

New member
Taking off from another thread.
Lindsey, this is something I have been wondering about and keep forgetting to ask the dr. And I thought you in particular might be able to shed some light for us diabetics.

I read what you said about Fats causing a delayed spike, which I know about.
But how many servings are considered within the balanced meal vs. too much (thereby causing a spike)?
How do you adjust your insulin intake with a higher fat meal?
(I don't normally eat high fat meal, but it happens from time to time.)

thanks for any input from you or others ...
 
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CaliSally

New member
Taking off from another thread.
Lindsey, this is something I have been wondering about and keep forgetting to ask the dr. And I thought you in particular might be able to shed some light for us diabetics.

I read what you said about Fats causing a delayed spike, which I know about.
But how many servings are considered within the balanced meal vs. too much (thereby causing a spike)?
How do you adjust your insulin intake with a higher fat meal?
(I don't normally eat high fat meal, but it happens from time to time.)

thanks for any input from you or others ...
 
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coltsfan715

New member
Hey there,

I am not sure about the amount that should be considered "high fat" I just know or was told that foods like Pizza and some fast foods and things like fries ... alot of fried foods can be problem causers if they are things like Fries or battered things at times.

I have been told to try giving half my insulin dose at the beginning of the meal and then another bolus after about an hour or so if I eat a high fat diet. I personally do NOT do this because my blood sugar would always be high shortly after the meal. I personally try to give my insulin when I eat the meal and give a little bit extra than I would a meal that is not so fatty. Then I typically check my sugars about 1.5 hours later and then about 3 hours later. If I do NOT check it at 1.5 hours I will definitely check it at 3 hours because if it is going to be high that is when it would be high for me.

Sorry I can't help with the other - in regards to the amount of fat is considered within a balaced meal. I have no clue, it is a good question but one that I have never thought to ask.

I would say it depends on how many calories you are trying to take in so the amount in a normal serving may vary from person to person based on their dietary needs. Just a thought I have no clue on that at all.

I hope that was somewhat helpful.

Also to add it is recommended for me to use a delayed dosing with my insulin because I have a pump and it has a feature that allows that. I am not sure what the recommendation would be for someone just giving insulin shots .. not using the pump. Sorry.

Take Care,
Linds
 
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coltsfan715

New member
Hey there,

I am not sure about the amount that should be considered "high fat" I just know or was told that foods like Pizza and some fast foods and things like fries ... alot of fried foods can be problem causers if they are things like Fries or battered things at times.

I have been told to try giving half my insulin dose at the beginning of the meal and then another bolus after about an hour or so if I eat a high fat diet. I personally do NOT do this because my blood sugar would always be high shortly after the meal. I personally try to give my insulin when I eat the meal and give a little bit extra than I would a meal that is not so fatty. Then I typically check my sugars about 1.5 hours later and then about 3 hours later. If I do NOT check it at 1.5 hours I will definitely check it at 3 hours because if it is going to be high that is when it would be high for me.

Sorry I can't help with the other - in regards to the amount of fat is considered within a balaced meal. I have no clue, it is a good question but one that I have never thought to ask.

I would say it depends on how many calories you are trying to take in so the amount in a normal serving may vary from person to person based on their dietary needs. Just a thought I have no clue on that at all.

I hope that was somewhat helpful.

Also to add it is recommended for me to use a delayed dosing with my insulin because I have a pump and it has a feature that allows that. I am not sure what the recommendation would be for someone just giving insulin shots .. not using the pump. Sorry.

Take Care,
Linds
 
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coltsfan715

New member
Hey there,

I am not sure about the amount that should be considered "high fat" I just know or was told that foods like Pizza and some fast foods and things like fries ... alot of fried foods can be problem causers if they are things like Fries or battered things at times.

I have been told to try giving half my insulin dose at the beginning of the meal and then another bolus after about an hour or so if I eat a high fat diet. I personally do NOT do this because my blood sugar would always be high shortly after the meal. I personally try to give my insulin when I eat the meal and give a little bit extra than I would a meal that is not so fatty. Then I typically check my sugars about 1.5 hours later and then about 3 hours later. If I do NOT check it at 1.5 hours I will definitely check it at 3 hours because if it is going to be high that is when it would be high for me.

Sorry I can't help with the other - in regards to the amount of fat is considered within a balaced meal. I have no clue, it is a good question but one that I have never thought to ask.

I would say it depends on how many calories you are trying to take in so the amount in a normal serving may vary from person to person based on their dietary needs. Just a thought I have no clue on that at all.

I hope that was somewhat helpful.

Also to add it is recommended for me to use a delayed dosing with my insulin because I have a pump and it has a feature that allows that. I am not sure what the recommendation would be for someone just giving insulin shots .. not using the pump. Sorry.

Take Care,
Linds
 
C

coltsfan715

New member
Hey there,

I am not sure about the amount that should be considered "high fat" I just know or was told that foods like Pizza and some fast foods and things like fries ... alot of fried foods can be problem causers if they are things like Fries or battered things at times.

I have been told to try giving half my insulin dose at the beginning of the meal and then another bolus after about an hour or so if I eat a high fat diet. I personally do NOT do this because my blood sugar would always be high shortly after the meal. I personally try to give my insulin when I eat the meal and give a little bit extra than I would a meal that is not so fatty. Then I typically check my sugars about 1.5 hours later and then about 3 hours later. If I do NOT check it at 1.5 hours I will definitely check it at 3 hours because if it is going to be high that is when it would be high for me.

Sorry I can't help with the other - in regards to the amount of fat is considered within a balaced meal. I have no clue, it is a good question but one that I have never thought to ask.

I would say it depends on how many calories you are trying to take in so the amount in a normal serving may vary from person to person based on their dietary needs. Just a thought I have no clue on that at all.

I hope that was somewhat helpful.

Also to add it is recommended for me to use a delayed dosing with my insulin because I have a pump and it has a feature that allows that. I am not sure what the recommendation would be for someone just giving insulin shots .. not using the pump. Sorry.

Take Care,
Linds
 
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coltsfan715

New member
Hey there,

I am not sure about the amount that should be considered "high fat" I just know or was told that foods like Pizza and some fast foods and things like fries ... alot of fried foods can be problem causers if they are things like Fries or battered things at times.

I have been told to try giving half my insulin dose at the beginning of the meal and then another bolus after about an hour or so if I eat a high fat diet. I personally do NOT do this because my blood sugar would always be high shortly after the meal. I personally try to give my insulin when I eat the meal and give a little bit extra than I would a meal that is not so fatty. Then I typically check my sugars about 1.5 hours later and then about 3 hours later. If I do NOT check it at 1.5 hours I will definitely check it at 3 hours because if it is going to be high that is when it would be high for me.

Sorry I can't help with the other - in regards to the amount of fat is considered within a balaced meal. I have no clue, it is a good question but one that I have never thought to ask.

I would say it depends on how many calories you are trying to take in so the amount in a normal serving may vary from person to person based on their dietary needs. Just a thought I have no clue on that at all.

I hope that was somewhat helpful.

Also to add it is recommended for me to use a delayed dosing with my insulin because I have a pump and it has a feature that allows that. I am not sure what the recommendation would be for someone just giving insulin shots .. not using the pump. Sorry.

Take Care,
Linds
 
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LeneSouthAfrica

New member
Sorry I don't have a 'recipe' of fat portions etc, but what works for me is to chart different meals with different fat contents, to see how different foods behave with or without insulin. I chart it over 2 or 3 hours, and set my alarm clock to remind me to test sugar at 20 min intervals and draw a diagram showing the curve nicely. Its fascinating. Here I could clearly see how fruit salad (no fat) made an almost instant really high uphill spike, whereas icecream made a long slow curve. Now if i eat icecream i know to inject afterwards and not before. It has also taught me to combine fat with a fast-releasing food, for instance, put some avo on those rice cakes. Its helped me a lot to understand different kinds of foods, and your doctor will be impressed too because it is scientific and he can then see exactly how ur body behaves. Every person is different so the best way is to experiment. (PS Obviously i don't do this 20min thing every day, just occasionally but i still go back to look at my previous charts and if i start eating a new kind of food i like to do a chart first).
Lene'
 
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LeneSouthAfrica

New member
Sorry I don't have a 'recipe' of fat portions etc, but what works for me is to chart different meals with different fat contents, to see how different foods behave with or without insulin. I chart it over 2 or 3 hours, and set my alarm clock to remind me to test sugar at 20 min intervals and draw a diagram showing the curve nicely. Its fascinating. Here I could clearly see how fruit salad (no fat) made an almost instant really high uphill spike, whereas icecream made a long slow curve. Now if i eat icecream i know to inject afterwards and not before. It has also taught me to combine fat with a fast-releasing food, for instance, put some avo on those rice cakes. Its helped me a lot to understand different kinds of foods, and your doctor will be impressed too because it is scientific and he can then see exactly how ur body behaves. Every person is different so the best way is to experiment. (PS Obviously i don't do this 20min thing every day, just occasionally but i still go back to look at my previous charts and if i start eating a new kind of food i like to do a chart first).
Lene'
 
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LeneSouthAfrica

New member
Sorry I don't have a 'recipe' of fat portions etc, but what works for me is to chart different meals with different fat contents, to see how different foods behave with or without insulin. I chart it over 2 or 3 hours, and set my alarm clock to remind me to test sugar at 20 min intervals and draw a diagram showing the curve nicely. Its fascinating. Here I could clearly see how fruit salad (no fat) made an almost instant really high uphill spike, whereas icecream made a long slow curve. Now if i eat icecream i know to inject afterwards and not before. It has also taught me to combine fat with a fast-releasing food, for instance, put some avo on those rice cakes. Its helped me a lot to understand different kinds of foods, and your doctor will be impressed too because it is scientific and he can then see exactly how ur body behaves. Every person is different so the best way is to experiment. (PS Obviously i don't do this 20min thing every day, just occasionally but i still go back to look at my previous charts and if i start eating a new kind of food i like to do a chart first).
Lene'
 
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LeneSouthAfrica

New member
Sorry I don't have a 'recipe' of fat portions etc, but what works for me is to chart different meals with different fat contents, to see how different foods behave with or without insulin. I chart it over 2 or 3 hours, and set my alarm clock to remind me to test sugar at 20 min intervals and draw a diagram showing the curve nicely. Its fascinating. Here I could clearly see how fruit salad (no fat) made an almost instant really high uphill spike, whereas icecream made a long slow curve. Now if i eat icecream i know to inject afterwards and not before. It has also taught me to combine fat with a fast-releasing food, for instance, put some avo on those rice cakes. Its helped me a lot to understand different kinds of foods, and your doctor will be impressed too because it is scientific and he can then see exactly how ur body behaves. Every person is different so the best way is to experiment. (PS Obviously i don't do this 20min thing every day, just occasionally but i still go back to look at my previous charts and if i start eating a new kind of food i like to do a chart first).
Lene'
 
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LeneSouthAfrica

New member
Sorry I don't have a 'recipe' of fat portions etc, but what works for me is to chart different meals with different fat contents, to see how different foods behave with or without insulin. I chart it over 2 or 3 hours, and set my alarm clock to remind me to test sugar at 20 min intervals and draw a diagram showing the curve nicely. Its fascinating. Here I could clearly see how fruit salad (no fat) made an almost instant really high uphill spike, whereas icecream made a long slow curve. Now if i eat icecream i know to inject afterwards and not before. It has also taught me to combine fat with a fast-releasing food, for instance, put some avo on those rice cakes. Its helped me a lot to understand different kinds of foods, and your doctor will be impressed too because it is scientific and he can then see exactly how ur body behaves. Every person is different so the best way is to experiment. (PS Obviously i don't do this 20min thing every day, just occasionally but i still go back to look at my previous charts and if i start eating a new kind of food i like to do a chart first).
Lene'
 
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