Kidney Stones

[LindseyRose]

In the past year and a half, I have developed 4 kidney stones. Two of which I passed on my own while laying on my bathroom floor, and two which had to be surgically lasered to break them up. NOT FUN, by the way!!

Everything I've read and what my doctors say is that they are caused by not drinking enough water. And if you are prone to getting kidney stones you need to eat a low sodium diet. So here's my question........if salt is the culprit, and salt dehydrates the body (because I think I drink enough water), could my hypertonic saline be the cause of these kidney stones?

The only thing that makes me think it might not be is that by breathing it in it's going directly to my lungs. I could be completely way off on all accounts, but it makes sense in my mind. I will ask my urologist next time I see him.

But since most of us here are using hypertonic saline, I figured if there is a link between the two then surely someone else would be getting kidney stones as well. Anyone else part of this fun club??

ETA: I also didn't start getting them until I started using the HS

 

[LindseyRose]

In the past year and a half, I have developed 4 kidney stones. Two of which I passed on my own while laying on my bathroom floor, and two which had to be surgically lasered to break them up. NOT FUN, by the way!!

Everything I've read and what my doctors say is that they are caused by not drinking enough water. And if you are prone to getting kidney stones you need to eat a low sodium diet. So here's my question........if salt is the culprit, and salt dehydrates the body (because I think I drink enough water), could my hypertonic saline be the cause of these kidney stones?

The only thing that makes me think it might not be is that by breathing it in it's going directly to my lungs. I could be completely way off on all accounts, but it makes sense in my mind. I will ask my urologist next time I see him.

But since most of us here are using hypertonic saline, I figured if there is a link between the two then surely someone else would be getting kidney stones as well. Anyone else part of this fun club??

ETA: I also didn't start getting them until I started using the HS

 

[LindseyRose]

In the past year and a half, I have developed 4 kidney stones. Two of which I passed on my own while laying on my bathroom floor, and two which had to be surgically lasered to break them up. NOT FUN, by the way!!

Everything I've read and what my doctors say is that they are caused by not drinking enough water. And if you are prone to getting kidney stones you need to eat a low sodium diet. So here's my question........if salt is the culprit, and salt dehydrates the body (because I think I drink enough water), could my hypertonic saline be the cause of these kidney stones?

The only thing that makes me think it might not be is that by breathing it in it's going directly to my lungs. I could be completely way off on all accounts, but it makes sense in my mind. I will ask my urologist next time I see him.

But since most of us here are using hypertonic saline, I figured if there is a link between the two then surely someone else would be getting kidney stones as well. Anyone else part of this fun club??

ETA: I also didn't start getting them until I started using the HS

 

[LindseyRose]

In the past year and a half, I have developed 4 kidney stones. Two of which I passed on my own while laying on my bathroom floor, and two which had to be surgically lasered to break them up. NOT FUN, by the way!!

Everything I've read and what my doctors say is that they are caused by not drinking enough water. And if you are prone to getting kidney stones you need to eat a low sodium diet. So here's my question........if salt is the culprit, and salt dehydrates the body (because I think I drink enough water), could my hypertonic saline be the cause of these kidney stones?

The only thing that makes me think it might not be is that by breathing it in it's going directly to my lungs. I could be completely way off on all accounts, but it makes sense in my mind. I will ask my urologist next time I see him.

But since most of us here are using hypertonic saline, I figured if there is a link between the two then surely someone else would be getting kidney stones as well. Anyone else part of this fun club??

ETA: I also didn't start getting them until I started using the HS

 

[LindseyRose]

In the past year and a half, I have developed 4 kidney stones. Two of which I passed on my own while laying on my bathroom floor, and two which had to be surgically lasered to break them up. NOT FUN, by the way!!

Everything I've read and what my doctors say is that they are caused by not drinking enough water. And if you are prone to getting kidney stones you need to eat a low sodium diet. So here's my question........if salt is the culprit, and salt dehydrates the body (because I think I drink enough water), could my hypertonic saline be the cause of these kidney stones?

The only thing that makes me think it might not be is that by breathing it in it's going directly to my lungs. I could be completely way off on all accounts, but it makes sense in my mind. I will ask my urologist next time I see him.

But since most of us here are using hypertonic saline, I figured if there is a link between the two then surely someone else would be getting kidney stones as well. Anyone else part of this fun club??

ETA: I also didn't start getting them until I started using the HS

 

[fondreflections]

Lindsey,

I don't get kidney stones, but my father does. He doesn't have CF. He was told that excessive amounts of Vitamin C and Ice Tea (believe it or not) cause kidney stones. He has completely stopped drinking the Ice Tea and no problems since. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

I would check the amount of Vitamin C in your diet. I know that since we have CF we take lots of extra vitamins.

Also, yes, drinking water also helps, but I think it's something else... <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

Edited to Add: Please ignore the chart below. I posted it for the pregnancy section. Sorry about that!

 

[fondreflections]

Lindsey,

I don't get kidney stones, but my father does. He doesn't have CF. He was told that excessive amounts of Vitamin C and Ice Tea (believe it or not) cause kidney stones. He has completely stopped drinking the Ice Tea and no problems since. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

I would check the amount of Vitamin C in your diet. I know that since we have CF we take lots of extra vitamins.

Also, yes, drinking water also helps, but I think it's something else... <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

Edited to Add: Please ignore the chart below. I posted it for the pregnancy section. Sorry about that!

 

[fondreflections]

Lindsey,

I don't get kidney stones, but my father does. He doesn't have CF. He was told that excessive amounts of Vitamin C and Ice Tea (believe it or not) cause kidney stones. He has completely stopped drinking the Ice Tea and no problems since. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

I would check the amount of Vitamin C in your diet. I know that since we have CF we take lots of extra vitamins.

Also, yes, drinking water also helps, but I think it's something else... <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

Edited to Add: Please ignore the chart below. I posted it for the pregnancy section. Sorry about that!

 

[fondreflections]

Lindsey,

I don't get kidney stones, but my father does. He doesn't have CF. He was told that excessive amounts of Vitamin C and Ice Tea (believe it or not) cause kidney stones. He has completely stopped drinking the Ice Tea and no problems since. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

I would check the amount of Vitamin C in your diet. I know that since we have CF we take lots of extra vitamins.

Also, yes, drinking water also helps, but I think it's something else... <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

Edited to Add: Please ignore the chart below. I posted it for the pregnancy section. Sorry about that!

 

[fondreflections]

Lindsey,

I don't get kidney stones, but my father does. He doesn't have CF. He was told that excessive amounts of Vitamin C and Ice Tea (believe it or not) cause kidney stones. He has completely stopped drinking the Ice Tea and no problems since. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

I would check the amount of Vitamin C in your diet. I know that since we have CF we take lots of extra vitamins.

Also, yes, drinking water also helps, but I think it's something else... <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

Edited to Add: Please ignore the chart below. I posted it for the pregnancy section. Sorry about that!

 

[kswitch]

i don't know squat about kidney stones, i've never had one (knock, wood), but i'm more than mostly sure that hts doens't have anything directly to do with it.

in order for it to be directly related, salt from the hts would hvae to find it's way into the blood and the kidneys. the direction of the action of hts is in the opposite direction for this to happen. by being more concentrated than the body, it pulls water from the through the lining of the lungs (aka osmosis). this is generally coughed out with sputum, or dispelled through regular lung processes.

i s'pose that it is possible, if the concentration was less than isotonic (equay concentration as the body), it may actually become absorbed, but i'm inclined to think that this applies to just the water conten, rather than the sodium.

then again, i may have no idea what i'm talking about. this is just the way that understand it.

 

[kswitch]

i don't know squat about kidney stones, i've never had one (knock, wood), but i'm more than mostly sure that hts doens't have anything directly to do with it.

in order for it to be directly related, salt from the hts would hvae to find it's way into the blood and the kidneys. the direction of the action of hts is in the opposite direction for this to happen. by being more concentrated than the body, it pulls water from the through the lining of the lungs (aka osmosis). this is generally coughed out with sputum, or dispelled through regular lung processes.

i s'pose that it is possible, if the concentration was less than isotonic (equay concentration as the body), it may actually become absorbed, but i'm inclined to think that this applies to just the water conten, rather than the sodium.

then again, i may have no idea what i'm talking about. this is just the way that understand it.

 

[kswitch]

i don't know squat about kidney stones, i've never had one (knock, wood), but i'm more than mostly sure that hts doens't have anything directly to do with it.

in order for it to be directly related, salt from the hts would hvae to find it's way into the blood and the kidneys. the direction of the action of hts is in the opposite direction for this to happen. by being more concentrated than the body, it pulls water from the through the lining of the lungs (aka osmosis). this is generally coughed out with sputum, or dispelled through regular lung processes.

i s'pose that it is possible, if the concentration was less than isotonic (equay concentration as the body), it may actually become absorbed, but i'm inclined to think that this applies to just the water conten, rather than the sodium.

then again, i may have no idea what i'm talking about. this is just the way that understand it.

 

[kswitch]

i don't know squat about kidney stones, i've never had one (knock, wood), but i'm more than mostly sure that hts doens't have anything directly to do with it.

in order for it to be directly related, salt from the hts would hvae to find it's way into the blood and the kidneys. the direction of the action of hts is in the opposite direction for this to happen. by being more concentrated than the body, it pulls water from the through the lining of the lungs (aka osmosis). this is generally coughed out with sputum, or dispelled through regular lung processes.

i s'pose that it is possible, if the concentration was less than isotonic (equay concentration as the body), it may actually become absorbed, but i'm inclined to think that this applies to just the water conten, rather than the sodium.

then again, i may have no idea what i'm talking about. this is just the way that understand it.

 

[kswitch]

i don't know squat about kidney stones, i've never had one (knock, wood), but i'm more than mostly sure that hts doens't have anything directly to do with it.

in order for it to be directly related, salt from the hts would hvae to find it's way into the blood and the kidneys. the direction of the action of hts is in the opposite direction for this to happen. by being more concentrated than the body, it pulls water from the through the lining of the lungs (aka osmosis). this is generally coughed out with sputum, or dispelled through regular lung processes.

i s'pose that it is possible, if the concentration was less than isotonic (equay concentration as the body), it may actually become absorbed, but i'm inclined to think that this applies to just the water conten, rather than the sodium.

then again, i may have no idea what i'm talking about. this is just the way that understand it.

 

[lightNlife]

<b>Kidney stones could not be caused by the hypertonic saline</b> because the saline is only acting on the lining of your lungs. You're not digesting it and having it get filtered through your kidneys.

Your kidney function may be low due to antibiotic therapy. Kidney stones are the result of an inbalance of citrate in the body. Since CFers typically have poor vitamin and mineral absorption, this is the likely culprit for the kidney stones. If you are not on a calcium supplement, you probably should be. Talk to your doctor about it.

There are many types of stones: calcium stones, uric acid stones, cystine stones, and struvite stones. Struvite stones are common in response to infection. Calcium stones can be the result of an overactive parathyroid gland. Uric acid stones develop in people who have very high protein diets (which some CFers have.) Cystine stones are very uncommon, and have a genetic component to them.

Don't blame the hypertonic saline. You and your doctor should examine all the other components of what your diet is like. It's possible that your renal function has suffered in response to IV medication.

 

[lightNlife]

<b>Kidney stones could not be caused by the hypertonic saline</b> because the saline is only acting on the lining of your lungs. You're not digesting it and having it get filtered through your kidneys.

Your kidney function may be low due to antibiotic therapy. Kidney stones are the result of an inbalance of citrate in the body. Since CFers typically have poor vitamin and mineral absorption, this is the likely culprit for the kidney stones. If you are not on a calcium supplement, you probably should be. Talk to your doctor about it.

There are many types of stones: calcium stones, uric acid stones, cystine stones, and struvite stones. Struvite stones are common in response to infection. Calcium stones can be the result of an overactive parathyroid gland. Uric acid stones develop in people who have very high protein diets (which some CFers have.) Cystine stones are very uncommon, and have a genetic component to them.

Don't blame the hypertonic saline. You and your doctor should examine all the other components of what your diet is like. It's possible that your renal function has suffered in response to IV medication.

 

[lightNlife]

<b>Kidney stones could not be caused by the hypertonic saline</b> because the saline is only acting on the lining of your lungs. You're not digesting it and having it get filtered through your kidneys.

Your kidney function may be low due to antibiotic therapy. Kidney stones are the result of an inbalance of citrate in the body. Since CFers typically have poor vitamin and mineral absorption, this is the likely culprit for the kidney stones. If you are not on a calcium supplement, you probably should be. Talk to your doctor about it.

There are many types of stones: calcium stones, uric acid stones, cystine stones, and struvite stones. Struvite stones are common in response to infection. Calcium stones can be the result of an overactive parathyroid gland. Uric acid stones develop in people who have very high protein diets (which some CFers have.) Cystine stones are very uncommon, and have a genetic component to them.

Don't blame the hypertonic saline. You and your doctor should examine all the other components of what your diet is like. It's possible that your renal function has suffered in response to IV medication.

 

[lightNlife]

<b>Kidney stones could not be caused by the hypertonic saline</b> because the saline is only acting on the lining of your lungs. You're not digesting it and having it get filtered through your kidneys.

Your kidney function may be low due to antibiotic therapy. Kidney stones are the result of an inbalance of citrate in the body. Since CFers typically have poor vitamin and mineral absorption, this is the likely culprit for the kidney stones. If you are not on a calcium supplement, you probably should be. Talk to your doctor about it.

There are many types of stones: calcium stones, uric acid stones, cystine stones, and struvite stones. Struvite stones are common in response to infection. Calcium stones can be the result of an overactive parathyroid gland. Uric acid stones develop in people who have very high protein diets (which some CFers have.) Cystine stones are very uncommon, and have a genetic component to them.

Don't blame the hypertonic saline. You and your doctor should examine all the other components of what your diet is like. It's possible that your renal function has suffered in response to IV medication.

 

[lightNlife]

<b>Kidney stones could not be caused by the hypertonic saline</b> because the saline is only acting on the lining of your lungs. You're not digesting it and having it get filtered through your kidneys.

Your kidney function may be low due to antibiotic therapy. Kidney stones are the result of an inbalance of citrate in the body. Since CFers typically have poor vitamin and mineral absorption, this is the likely culprit for the kidney stones. If you are not on a calcium supplement, you probably should be. Talk to your doctor about it.

There are many types of stones: calcium stones, uric acid stones, cystine stones, and struvite stones. Struvite stones are common in response to infection. Calcium stones can be the result of an overactive parathyroid gland. Uric acid stones develop in people who have very high protein diets (which some CFers have.) Cystine stones are very uncommon, and have a genetic component to them.

Don't blame the hypertonic saline. You and your doctor should examine all the other components of what your diet is like. It's possible that your renal function has suffered in response to IV medication.