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PLEASE help. REALLY needed life threatening advice needed (long read)

Faust

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I was answering a question from Samurai about what's needed to get through the law enforcement/detention deputy requirements and I got on a rant in general about my situation and how I really need advice/help. Please read the following about my life, my quandry, and me feeling absolutely 100% stuck in life with very little real options to better myself. PLEASE if you can offer ANY REALISTIC advice and/or point me in the direction of some program to help me further attain my goals of being 100% independent and having an actual career considering my special circumstances, I will be EXTREMELY grateful! This is my real life we are talking about, and I'm really stuck now and very despondent...(the following text starts off with what I did to get the detention deputy job, and didn't get it, and then flows into my situation and needing advice/help, just to clarify...It was taken from another post in a different thread, but I edited it out).






I performed and passed with flying colors, everything they threw at me. I didn't get any of the positions I applied for, even though I was WAY beyond qualified (theres some real crappy detention deputies and even worse community services officer which I also applied for) with a degree in criminal justice where I graduated with high honors (cum laude), had a very successful collegiate internship program with the sheriff's dept, and several glowing letters of recommendation from a very well known officer (now detective), and a successful lawyer I have known for a very long time (for character affirmation), and never having done anything beyond petty juvenile things, I didn't get crap and I became very depressed afterwards. I was also treated by my background investigator like I was always lieing, because he didn't believe how an almost 34 year old strapping guy never had a job before. That's what I told him at the original application turnin/interview, because I hadn't had a "regular job" before, only 3 or 4 jobs that were mostly restaurant work and "under the table". I told him it wasn't me attempting to be deceptive, I was just basing it on a "real job" as in I never turned in a W-2 form before.

I also explained my entire personal background, including my disease and my history with my disease in general (had to explain the whole disease as well), and how I had to not work due to my health, having to stay on my mothers insurance for my treatment and medications, and how If I was to work it couldn't be anywhere other that a job that would pay fairly well (im not greedy, it would need to pay half decent for me to be able to upkeep my house and take care of my medical premiums and other health related costs when my mother passes away and leaves me the house to live in), and if I did work anywhere I would immediately be shown to not be handicapped and would lose not only my mothers insurance but my fathers social security benefits (my only income). So my plan was to get an education, take care of my disease as best I could, and then bite the bullet and jump into the dark abyss of the uncertain future and get a professional job so I could be 100% independent for the first time in my whole life.


Personally I would have hired myself. The whole experience was a growing and learning experience, but it helped to greatly lessen what little faith I had left in humanity. Now here I am, qualified, with generally good health (for a cf anyways), and pretty much depressed and not sure what I can do. My lack of work experience is the big hurdle I have now, and regardless if my explanations sound very logical and sound (I think they do), employers (especially state government) don't give a s**t it seems.

Finally after quite a while of feeling despondent and not trying anything else due to me "Putting my eggs all in one basket", and noone being able to give me any advice besides "Hang in there", or "Keep trying" (even from social workers), i said i'll just pile on as many financially possible (to me) certifications as I can to my resume, to help offset the obvious lack of work history. After I certified in two different firearms, got my D security license, my G security license, certifications in oleoresin capsicum secondary weaponry, expandable baton secondary weaponry, and future plans to further my security certifications (money permitting), here I sit.


I'm confused, and despondent in general. It REALLY F'ing sucks to be in a gray area that CF creates. I'm still pretty healthy (I will fully come to that conclusion after my CF docs evaluation on the 10th of this month), and I want to marry my LONG term fiancee, get a real career, and be 100% independent and atleast have a good 10 more years (I hope) of being healthy and working.

I currently live with my fiancee, my elderly mother, and my newly re-moved in middle sister (she went crazy, and got a divorce) and our 6 dogs and 2 cats (3 of the dogs are my sisters, 1 cat is hers). My mother is very old, she is 73 and has had 2 congestive heart failures, and a very time limited porcine heart valve replacement which it's time will be up very soon. My name is on the house, as well as my sisters name, but my mother officially owns the house.

My mother plans to leave me the home (it's fully paid off, but the yearly taxes are a killer due to local population boom and businesses going in). So my living place is taken care of, but i'm not sure how much money my mother will leave me, even though she says "You will be taken care of", but i'm assuming even though my sisters love me and are great caring women, and they realize i'll need the money more than they will (one is married with a little girl and has their own house and is doing ok, the other lives with me but has her own house she rents out and makes ok money with her current boyfriend property wise). Thankfully my truck is also paid off (96 model, but it's a nissan and should probably run for a lot more).


I need some serious advice (I know I can be a freak on here and i'm silly, but just asking for serious realistic advice from you guys this time) on what to do. I figured to get certified in security as well as I could (that is now over), and get some work experience in security. The problem is, unless you are deemed very desireable by say wackenhut to protect say a nuclear power plant and earn 20+ dollars an hour carrying an AR-14 (after more training), security work doesn't pay that well at all. Most armed jobs you would be lucky to find something for around 10 bucks an hour. As you are well aware, when you get a new job, they almost always hold your insurance benefits for atleast 3 months or so. So I would be a CF patient with 3 months of no coverage and have no ability to pay for very expensive medications out of pocket like pulmozyme or my enzymes or the colistin im on. Hell even a 1-2 month supply of albuterol is expensive out of pocket, especially on a fixed income of social security (better than most, but not all that).

I have been told that I could apply for domestiv partner health insurance through my fiancee's job (dental company), but the prereqrasites are pretty rediculous, including her having to be put on the deed to the house (something my mother is very afraid of, even though she loves her like a daughter...cause all people can change, and if she cheats on me and we break it off, or I screw up, she could own the house). My fiancee takes care of my auto insurance now, bless her for that.

I haven't tried to apply to any other institution (state/federal/local) that security/my degree in law enforcement would be appropriate, because after my last experience jumping through all the hoops for the local law enforcement in pursuit of employment, it exposed my HUGE weakness, and that's work experience. And I can't improve on my work experience deficiencies unless I am employed, and basically I can't be employed unless I make "ok" money that's better than my benefits I get now, or will allow me to pay for my own health insurance (somehow) while i'm in that 3 month or longer limbo of having no health insurance through whatever job would give me a chance given my situation (probably not many).


So sorry for such a gigantic post, but my problem is quite distinct compared to normal people (maybe not many of you guys), and I really need help and advice on what to do. I thought about paying a professional resume company to make my resume look great and maybe BS some on it to help fill in the time gags of employment/no employment, but will that even be helpful when people are so prejudicial in the first place regarding my special circumstances.

I'm a pretty bright guy, and i've always been an excellent employee, even if the jobs were mostly kitchen work (about all you can find under the table besides construction, and i've tried that too), lasting at each job on average 2 years each place. The bad part is, 2 of the three of the places I list as past employment are long gone closed, and the third and last place I worked (about 7 years ago, maybe 8 years ago) noone except the original owners are there and aren't that open to talking to law enforcement places about how I worked there under the table. Though the wife owner did talk to my background investigator during my employment attempt with the county law enforcment. I do feel I would be an asset to any company that would give me a real chance to prove my worth and show i'm an industrious and valuable employee.


I really don't know what to do, and I don't want to waste the remaining fairly healthy time I got just sitting around on disability and playing video games, watching my life pass me by. I'm pretty sure if I apply to something federal law enforcement based, how I am now, I will either get laughed at or my info thrown in the trash due to crappy work experience in their eyes. If I try to get employment in something like local armed security that pays relatively nothing but more than I am receiving now, i'll get work experience, but have to either out of pocket my health care needs, put my fiancee on the house deed (something tells me my mother won't allow that regardless) to get on hers, or TOBRA myself (program for individuals self employed etc for health care) which is pretty expensive I hear. I could possibly apply how I am now to other surrounding county detention deputy programs/academies, but i'm nearly positive their big bone of contention will also be my work history like it was here in my county and it will be another year of jumping through hoops, only for it all to be more wasted time. The only other option might be social securities "Get back to work program", where basically you get to work ultra part time but can't make more than X amount of money for fear of them cutting off your benefits (it's almost nothing income wise for them to cut you off), that lasts for like a year and then after that, you are totally on your own.


Thanks for reading my general life story/situation...If you can offer up any serious advice that might benefit me, i'd REALLY appreciate it, cause mentally i'm pretty bad off due to being treated like crap for something that's not my fault, and showing I can do just as good as others, and often times better.


I REALLY NEED HELP/QUALITY ADVICE!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">
 

Faust

New member
I was answering a question from Samurai about what's needed to get through the law enforcement/detention deputy requirements and I got on a rant in general about my situation and how I really need advice/help. Please read the following about my life, my quandry, and me feeling absolutely 100% stuck in life with very little real options to better myself. PLEASE if you can offer ANY REALISTIC advice and/or point me in the direction of some program to help me further attain my goals of being 100% independent and having an actual career considering my special circumstances, I will be EXTREMELY grateful! This is my real life we are talking about, and I'm really stuck now and very despondent...(the following text starts off with what I did to get the detention deputy job, and didn't get it, and then flows into my situation and needing advice/help, just to clarify...It was taken from another post in a different thread, but I edited it out).






I performed and passed with flying colors, everything they threw at me. I didn't get any of the positions I applied for, even though I was WAY beyond qualified (theres some real crappy detention deputies and even worse community services officer which I also applied for) with a degree in criminal justice where I graduated with high honors (cum laude), had a very successful collegiate internship program with the sheriff's dept, and several glowing letters of recommendation from a very well known officer (now detective), and a successful lawyer I have known for a very long time (for character affirmation), and never having done anything beyond petty juvenile things, I didn't get crap and I became very depressed afterwards. I was also treated by my background investigator like I was always lieing, because he didn't believe how an almost 34 year old strapping guy never had a job before. That's what I told him at the original application turnin/interview, because I hadn't had a "regular job" before, only 3 or 4 jobs that were mostly restaurant work and "under the table". I told him it wasn't me attempting to be deceptive, I was just basing it on a "real job" as in I never turned in a W-2 form before.

I also explained my entire personal background, including my disease and my history with my disease in general (had to explain the whole disease as well), and how I had to not work due to my health, having to stay on my mothers insurance for my treatment and medications, and how If I was to work it couldn't be anywhere other that a job that would pay fairly well (im not greedy, it would need to pay half decent for me to be able to upkeep my house and take care of my medical premiums and other health related costs when my mother passes away and leaves me the house to live in), and if I did work anywhere I would immediately be shown to not be handicapped and would lose not only my mothers insurance but my fathers social security benefits (my only income). So my plan was to get an education, take care of my disease as best I could, and then bite the bullet and jump into the dark abyss of the uncertain future and get a professional job so I could be 100% independent for the first time in my whole life.


Personally I would have hired myself. The whole experience was a growing and learning experience, but it helped to greatly lessen what little faith I had left in humanity. Now here I am, qualified, with generally good health (for a cf anyways), and pretty much depressed and not sure what I can do. My lack of work experience is the big hurdle I have now, and regardless if my explanations sound very logical and sound (I think they do), employers (especially state government) don't give a s**t it seems.

Finally after quite a while of feeling despondent and not trying anything else due to me "Putting my eggs all in one basket", and noone being able to give me any advice besides "Hang in there", or "Keep trying" (even from social workers), i said i'll just pile on as many financially possible (to me) certifications as I can to my resume, to help offset the obvious lack of work history. After I certified in two different firearms, got my D security license, my G security license, certifications in oleoresin capsicum secondary weaponry, expandable baton secondary weaponry, and future plans to further my security certifications (money permitting), here I sit.


I'm confused, and despondent in general. It REALLY F'ing sucks to be in a gray area that CF creates. I'm still pretty healthy (I will fully come to that conclusion after my CF docs evaluation on the 10th of this month), and I want to marry my LONG term fiancee, get a real career, and be 100% independent and atleast have a good 10 more years (I hope) of being healthy and working.

I currently live with my fiancee, my elderly mother, and my newly re-moved in middle sister (she went crazy, and got a divorce) and our 6 dogs and 2 cats (3 of the dogs are my sisters, 1 cat is hers). My mother is very old, she is 73 and has had 2 congestive heart failures, and a very time limited porcine heart valve replacement which it's time will be up very soon. My name is on the house, as well as my sisters name, but my mother officially owns the house.

My mother plans to leave me the home (it's fully paid off, but the yearly taxes are a killer due to local population boom and businesses going in). So my living place is taken care of, but i'm not sure how much money my mother will leave me, even though she says "You will be taken care of", but i'm assuming even though my sisters love me and are great caring women, and they realize i'll need the money more than they will (one is married with a little girl and has their own house and is doing ok, the other lives with me but has her own house she rents out and makes ok money with her current boyfriend property wise). Thankfully my truck is also paid off (96 model, but it's a nissan and should probably run for a lot more).


I need some serious advice (I know I can be a freak on here and i'm silly, but just asking for serious realistic advice from you guys this time) on what to do. I figured to get certified in security as well as I could (that is now over), and get some work experience in security. The problem is, unless you are deemed very desireable by say wackenhut to protect say a nuclear power plant and earn 20+ dollars an hour carrying an AR-14 (after more training), security work doesn't pay that well at all. Most armed jobs you would be lucky to find something for around 10 bucks an hour. As you are well aware, when you get a new job, they almost always hold your insurance benefits for atleast 3 months or so. So I would be a CF patient with 3 months of no coverage and have no ability to pay for very expensive medications out of pocket like pulmozyme or my enzymes or the colistin im on. Hell even a 1-2 month supply of albuterol is expensive out of pocket, especially on a fixed income of social security (better than most, but not all that).

I have been told that I could apply for domestiv partner health insurance through my fiancee's job (dental company), but the prereqrasites are pretty rediculous, including her having to be put on the deed to the house (something my mother is very afraid of, even though she loves her like a daughter...cause all people can change, and if she cheats on me and we break it off, or I screw up, she could own the house). My fiancee takes care of my auto insurance now, bless her for that.

I haven't tried to apply to any other institution (state/federal/local) that security/my degree in law enforcement would be appropriate, because after my last experience jumping through all the hoops for the local law enforcement in pursuit of employment, it exposed my HUGE weakness, and that's work experience. And I can't improve on my work experience deficiencies unless I am employed, and basically I can't be employed unless I make "ok" money that's better than my benefits I get now, or will allow me to pay for my own health insurance (somehow) while i'm in that 3 month or longer limbo of having no health insurance through whatever job would give me a chance given my situation (probably not many).


So sorry for such a gigantic post, but my problem is quite distinct compared to normal people (maybe not many of you guys), and I really need help and advice on what to do. I thought about paying a professional resume company to make my resume look great and maybe BS some on it to help fill in the time gags of employment/no employment, but will that even be helpful when people are so prejudicial in the first place regarding my special circumstances.

I'm a pretty bright guy, and i've always been an excellent employee, even if the jobs were mostly kitchen work (about all you can find under the table besides construction, and i've tried that too), lasting at each job on average 2 years each place. The bad part is, 2 of the three of the places I list as past employment are long gone closed, and the third and last place I worked (about 7 years ago, maybe 8 years ago) noone except the original owners are there and aren't that open to talking to law enforcement places about how I worked there under the table. Though the wife owner did talk to my background investigator during my employment attempt with the county law enforcment. I do feel I would be an asset to any company that would give me a real chance to prove my worth and show i'm an industrious and valuable employee.


I really don't know what to do, and I don't want to waste the remaining fairly healthy time I got just sitting around on disability and playing video games, watching my life pass me by. I'm pretty sure if I apply to something federal law enforcement based, how I am now, I will either get laughed at or my info thrown in the trash due to crappy work experience in their eyes. If I try to get employment in something like local armed security that pays relatively nothing but more than I am receiving now, i'll get work experience, but have to either out of pocket my health care needs, put my fiancee on the house deed (something tells me my mother won't allow that regardless) to get on hers, or TOBRA myself (program for individuals self employed etc for health care) which is pretty expensive I hear. I could possibly apply how I am now to other surrounding county detention deputy programs/academies, but i'm nearly positive their big bone of contention will also be my work history like it was here in my county and it will be another year of jumping through hoops, only for it all to be more wasted time. The only other option might be social securities "Get back to work program", where basically you get to work ultra part time but can't make more than X amount of money for fear of them cutting off your benefits (it's almost nothing income wise for them to cut you off), that lasts for like a year and then after that, you are totally on your own.


Thanks for reading my general life story/situation...If you can offer up any serious advice that might benefit me, i'd REALLY appreciate it, cause mentally i'm pretty bad off due to being treated like crap for something that's not my fault, and showing I can do just as good as others, and often times better.


I REALLY NEED HELP/QUALITY ADVICE!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">
 

Diana

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Sean I can see all your dilemma's and there is no easy way around them because it really is the way the workforce is. Wish I could help with your chosen career path but you really need a lucky break from someone in that field (if you were in Australia I might have been able to help with contacts).....

HOWEVER, I had been thinking to myself when reading your comments on other threads that you are one hell of an intelligent person.....and ok alot of people are but boy can you communicate. I seriously think that while you continue persuing your career you should consider a hobby on the side which might just make you extemely wealthy - write a book. Seriously I would buy it and I don't even know what it's about yet!

I guess you live with you everyday so the what you say and they way you speak is nothing new to you, but I am telling you that you are gifted. Give it some thought.....and I know someone who works in a publishing house so I'd be happy to help out there. I can't sway there view on prospective writers but I can assure you that someone out there will want to print what you have to say.

I am not by any means saying to give up on what you are qualified to do - in fact quite the opposite, but if you were successful you could lead any normal job you wanted because the money wouldn't matter if you had another source of income say from a best seller (yes I am the optimist).

Anyway I wish you all the best in whatever you pursue.
 

Diana

New member
Sean I can see all your dilemma's and there is no easy way around them because it really is the way the workforce is. Wish I could help with your chosen career path but you really need a lucky break from someone in that field (if you were in Australia I might have been able to help with contacts).....

HOWEVER, I had been thinking to myself when reading your comments on other threads that you are one hell of an intelligent person.....and ok alot of people are but boy can you communicate. I seriously think that while you continue persuing your career you should consider a hobby on the side which might just make you extemely wealthy - write a book. Seriously I would buy it and I don't even know what it's about yet!

I guess you live with you everyday so the what you say and they way you speak is nothing new to you, but I am telling you that you are gifted. Give it some thought.....and I know someone who works in a publishing house so I'd be happy to help out there. I can't sway there view on prospective writers but I can assure you that someone out there will want to print what you have to say.

I am not by any means saying to give up on what you are qualified to do - in fact quite the opposite, but if you were successful you could lead any normal job you wanted because the money wouldn't matter if you had another source of income say from a best seller (yes I am the optimist).

Anyway I wish you all the best in whatever you pursue.
 
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65rosessamurai

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Ok, Sean, I"m skimming through the text, but wanted to first offer this reply, before reading on...I have a friend (actually my brother-in-law's friend) who was a former SWAT in CO, but had quit for a different job offer (detailed explanation is not pertinent for this) which didn't turn out. He had then, as I recall, changed his career a bit, and got an IT degree, and is now working in the security section of the internet-yes, "computer cop", if that is such a word.
Now, because this may NOT be an idea for you, because it would mean more schooling (and I know how dreadful of the thought of more schooling is), it was a thought I wanted to come across.
Another thing which came to mind, is the enforcement job IS a dangerous one, and some of us who already live such unstable lives, may not want to risk our own lives as a career. But, if there is ANY possibility that you had given indication of your CF during the interview, that is NOT something to devulge until after the initial hire. True, it cannot be proven as "discrimination", but based on your explanation that CF is not obvious without saying anything, I would suspect that if they knew about it during hire, they would use it to 'bias' their opinion.
Is it possible your lawyer aquaintance could give any input as to the result of your interview, like the job history part, for example...I figure even without a W-2, you still have to claim SS, right? Also, wouldn't a personal reference also asses as a "character reference"?
I not only know what it's like to job search as a CF'r, but how much more aggrivating it is to feel totally qualified for a job, but be refused based on "previous experience"! It sounds like a "catch-22", but I still think that not saying anything about CF is the key, esp. if you don't have any current health problems to prevent you from doing what is expected from you.
I had at least two jobs, in which my CF was a major factor in being dismissed, but despite the laws to protect the "handicapped", it wasn't able to be proven in my cases!
Anyway, gonna let this reply go, and read on....while you read this much..
Samurai
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
Ok, Sean, I"m skimming through the text, but wanted to first offer this reply, before reading on...I have a friend (actually my brother-in-law's friend) who was a former SWAT in CO, but had quit for a different job offer (detailed explanation is not pertinent for this) which didn't turn out. He had then, as I recall, changed his career a bit, and got an IT degree, and is now working in the security section of the internet-yes, "computer cop", if that is such a word.
Now, because this may NOT be an idea for you, because it would mean more schooling (and I know how dreadful of the thought of more schooling is), it was a thought I wanted to come across.
Another thing which came to mind, is the enforcement job IS a dangerous one, and some of us who already live such unstable lives, may not want to risk our own lives as a career. But, if there is ANY possibility that you had given indication of your CF during the interview, that is NOT something to devulge until after the initial hire. True, it cannot be proven as "discrimination", but based on your explanation that CF is not obvious without saying anything, I would suspect that if they knew about it during hire, they would use it to 'bias' their opinion.
Is it possible your lawyer aquaintance could give any input as to the result of your interview, like the job history part, for example...I figure even without a W-2, you still have to claim SS, right? Also, wouldn't a personal reference also asses as a "character reference"?
I not only know what it's like to job search as a CF'r, but how much more aggrivating it is to feel totally qualified for a job, but be refused based on "previous experience"! It sounds like a "catch-22", but I still think that not saying anything about CF is the key, esp. if you don't have any current health problems to prevent you from doing what is expected from you.
I had at least two jobs, in which my CF was a major factor in being dismissed, but despite the laws to protect the "handicapped", it wasn't able to be proven in my cases!
Anyway, gonna let this reply go, and read on....while you read this much..
Samurai
 

littledebbie

New member
I live in Ca and work for the state dept of Health Services. Our Dept. has tons of "investigators" who are required (and paid extra) to cary firearms. i also know Dept. Of Justice, Dept. Social Services, Det. Tobacco and Firearms and a few others do to. I started with the state at 21 with experience from working at Blockbuster <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">. The state was my choice because they have the best health benefits ever. I don't know about Florida but in CA your health benefits start in 30 days. If you have to wait 3 months, I could mail you some tobi or coliston <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> (I stock pile, I know we're not supposed to but....) Yah, I know illegal blah blah blah. Anyway, you might have to start entry level with the state but you can move really fast I have promoted 4 times in 4.5 years. They also have a lot of perks like a nice disability retiremnt option as well as long term care insurance and they are on top of all the equal opportunity laws. As far as why you have such gaps in your work history, uhmm I would say school and taking care of your Mother and other than that stretch the truth.

Also, I know in CA the hoops to be a police officer are WAY more intense than just being an employee of the big machine. I just took the dumbest exam, it was like 2 hours of "put the following in alphabetical order" I started in a lower position than I was capable of, but my plan was to get my foot in the door and then let my shining personality take me to the top. Success. I think you should really shoot for the state again just for a Dept.
 

littledebbie

New member
I live in Ca and work for the state dept of Health Services. Our Dept. has tons of "investigators" who are required (and paid extra) to cary firearms. i also know Dept. Of Justice, Dept. Social Services, Det. Tobacco and Firearms and a few others do to. I started with the state at 21 with experience from working at Blockbuster <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">. The state was my choice because they have the best health benefits ever. I don't know about Florida but in CA your health benefits start in 30 days. If you have to wait 3 months, I could mail you some tobi or coliston <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> (I stock pile, I know we're not supposed to but....) Yah, I know illegal blah blah blah. Anyway, you might have to start entry level with the state but you can move really fast I have promoted 4 times in 4.5 years. They also have a lot of perks like a nice disability retiremnt option as well as long term care insurance and they are on top of all the equal opportunity laws. As far as why you have such gaps in your work history, uhmm I would say school and taking care of your Mother and other than that stretch the truth.

Also, I know in CA the hoops to be a police officer are WAY more intense than just being an employee of the big machine. I just took the dumbest exam, it was like 2 hours of "put the following in alphabetical order" I started in a lower position than I was capable of, but my plan was to get my foot in the door and then let my shining personality take me to the top. Success. I think you should really shoot for the state again just for a Dept.
 

Faust

New member
Thanks for the advice and kind words Diana, they are very appreciated. I have seen and experiences some very colorful things in my life, and many people I have related these experiences to have all said "Man you should write a book, i'd buy it in a heartbeat" due to the stories I related to them that have either directly involved me or I witnessed/heard of happening to others, and they thought they were hilarious. I'm a pretty bad procrastinator, and i've been telling myself to finally sit down and bust out a couple hundred pages of these stories for a while now. Oddly enough I don't recall as many of these experiences as I probably once recalled due to time and probable long distance bills between my remaining brain cells. I suppose I could always throw in some fictional stories from the padded cell of my imagination to fill in the rest of the space, but that seems kind of crappy (should probably be all non fiction, or all fiction, not mixed).


Anyways i'll seriously keep that in mind and remind myself that procrastination is very bad. If I could only find a job as a humor oriented daily collumnist or get paind to be some guy who sits on top of a hill in a thong and pretends to be wise and give poignant comments to others seeking some type of answers...I guess my only serious outlet would be to just get that professional resume company to write me a REAL good one and stretch the truth in my favor almost to the point of breaking one of the ten commandments, and just carpet bomb everyone and their mom with my resume and see if anyone will take a chance with me.


Thanks again Diana. Anyone elses opinion is greatly appreciated, if they have the willpower to read through that long rant.
 

Faust

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Thanks for the advice and kind words Diana, they are very appreciated. I have seen and experiences some very colorful things in my life, and many people I have related these experiences to have all said "Man you should write a book, i'd buy it in a heartbeat" due to the stories I related to them that have either directly involved me or I witnessed/heard of happening to others, and they thought they were hilarious. I'm a pretty bad procrastinator, and i've been telling myself to finally sit down and bust out a couple hundred pages of these stories for a while now. Oddly enough I don't recall as many of these experiences as I probably once recalled due to time and probable long distance bills between my remaining brain cells. I suppose I could always throw in some fictional stories from the padded cell of my imagination to fill in the rest of the space, but that seems kind of crappy (should probably be all non fiction, or all fiction, not mixed).


Anyways i'll seriously keep that in mind and remind myself that procrastination is very bad. If I could only find a job as a humor oriented daily collumnist or get paind to be some guy who sits on top of a hill in a thong and pretends to be wise and give poignant comments to others seeking some type of answers...I guess my only serious outlet would be to just get that professional resume company to write me a REAL good one and stretch the truth in my favor almost to the point of breaking one of the ten commandments, and just carpet bomb everyone and their mom with my resume and see if anyone will take a chance with me.


Thanks again Diana. Anyone elses opinion is greatly appreciated, if they have the willpower to read through that long rant.
 
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65rosessamurai

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OH!! Another Brainstorm, Sean!!
I've never added links to this, so here it goes!!
<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
">http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
</a>"><a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
">http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
</a></a>
(If it shows up) this web page should give info for jobs working as a civilian for government jobs (something I wish to get someday)
I don't know what it offers for your career area, but I used in my area. Some parts include the necessity of security clearance.
As I said, it's a brainstorm, and hopefully, some help....i do wish to add a comment, is it possible that if your schooling is during the same time as your jobs, you don't really have to put down job history?? If saying that you did odd jobs during school, perhaps they won't weigh that to your qualifications.
(trying to help) Fred
(P.S. If you consider stories, keep a notepad close by to jot some of those stories you remember. then when you got enough, start with an outline and try from there!)
 
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65rosessamurai

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OH!! Another Brainstorm, Sean!!
I've never added links to this, so here it goes!!
<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
">http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
</a>"><a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
">http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
</a></a>
(If it shows up) this web page should give info for jobs working as a civilian for government jobs (something I wish to get someday)
I don't know what it offers for your career area, but I used in my area. Some parts include the necessity of security clearance.
As I said, it's a brainstorm, and hopefully, some help....i do wish to add a comment, is it possible that if your schooling is during the same time as your jobs, you don't really have to put down job history?? If saying that you did odd jobs during school, perhaps they won't weigh that to your qualifications.
(trying to help) Fred
(P.S. If you consider stories, keep a notepad close by to jot some of those stories you remember. then when you got enough, start with an outline and try from there!)
 

littledebbie

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www.jobs.myflorida.com

Correctional officer trainee...working in a prison pays pretty decent I think, it would get you in the door.
 

littledebbie

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www.jobs.myflorida.com

Correctional officer trainee...working in a prison pays pretty decent I think, it would get you in the door.
 

Faust

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Yeah I think my screw up was mentioning my CF in the first place before being hired. I think I was maybe naive (something that i'm never like in any other aspect of being alive) in the interview process and thought that due to the fact that my background investigator was a black man, he would know what prejudice was all about and therefore he wouldn't treat me with bias. I guess I was wrong about that, the dude was a pretty big ahole to put it nicely.


Maybe I can possibly change my approach, and list the jobs (My timeline with jobs is kind of vague in my head also, due to the gaps involved), and then use the "schooling, helping my sick mom/grandma/BSing" approach...But i'm assuming they would immediately ask "How were you supporting yourself during this time" (which my background investigator did immediately), which then to be honest i'd have to explain my situation, which puts me right back to square #1 of opening myself up to tons of prejudicial treatment and probably not getting a job like before.


Such a screwy situation to be in. If you were CF and started working early in your life when you were healthy, you avoid this situation all together. If you start later for tons of legitimate reasons, you are skar00d. Also the regular police academy out here is about a $3000 personal investment, and that's only if they accept you in the first place. The reason i tried detention deputy first was because it was a free ride to law enforcement state certification, unlike the police academy. If you are accepted you make 15 bucks an hour while in the academy, but no health care I don't think, and then you start at like 34k a year once you are done and passed the academy.


I sometimes think I totally picked the wrong field with my degree. When I sought out vocational rehabilitation and was accepted, they basically tested me and placed a large book in front of me that encompassed tons of careers. Even though I scored very high, and my counselor advocated for me to go into pre-med at a state university, the money was tight then, and more people could be helped with what would have went to just me. So I picked criminal justice technology not thinking what my situation might be later on in life. I've been a computer geek since I was about 9 years old, and it's what I do for a hobby (mostly game, and media manipulation), and that was the farthest thing from what I wanted to do career wise because I did it for fun.

If I would have went IT back THEN, I would probably have a sweet 80k+ a year career by now, that isn't that demanding physically. My degree is terminal, meaning it's an AAS degree (applied associates in science), because at the time I was getting sick and the thought of going for my bachelors made me want to puke and pull my hair out at the same time.


As I said before, I think the only realistic solution would be just to carpet bomb every possible employer with a really well worded (and bending the truth) resume, and try to change my initial approach/interview tactics...But to be honest, I don't know how I can fully address my very large gaps in employment and not state how i'm on disability, and then the logical question why i'm on disability. A man has to eat, and if I say my mother supported me for 7+ years (which wasn't the case, but it's the next logical white lie I can think of to get away from admitting I have CF and am disabled) that will look HORRIBLE on my application/during the interview process, cause it makes me look like an absolute slacker/leech/loser when i'm not that way.

So I have no idea how to properly adjust my approach to deal with these issues as best as I can barring complete lieing, that would result in the best possible outcome for myself.
 

Faust

New member
Yeah I think my screw up was mentioning my CF in the first place before being hired. I think I was maybe naive (something that i'm never like in any other aspect of being alive) in the interview process and thought that due to the fact that my background investigator was a black man, he would know what prejudice was all about and therefore he wouldn't treat me with bias. I guess I was wrong about that, the dude was a pretty big ahole to put it nicely.


Maybe I can possibly change my approach, and list the jobs (My timeline with jobs is kind of vague in my head also, due to the gaps involved), and then use the "schooling, helping my sick mom/grandma/BSing" approach...But i'm assuming they would immediately ask "How were you supporting yourself during this time" (which my background investigator did immediately), which then to be honest i'd have to explain my situation, which puts me right back to square #1 of opening myself up to tons of prejudicial treatment and probably not getting a job like before.


Such a screwy situation to be in. If you were CF and started working early in your life when you were healthy, you avoid this situation all together. If you start later for tons of legitimate reasons, you are skar00d. Also the regular police academy out here is about a $3000 personal investment, and that's only if they accept you in the first place. The reason i tried detention deputy first was because it was a free ride to law enforcement state certification, unlike the police academy. If you are accepted you make 15 bucks an hour while in the academy, but no health care I don't think, and then you start at like 34k a year once you are done and passed the academy.


I sometimes think I totally picked the wrong field with my degree. When I sought out vocational rehabilitation and was accepted, they basically tested me and placed a large book in front of me that encompassed tons of careers. Even though I scored very high, and my counselor advocated for me to go into pre-med at a state university, the money was tight then, and more people could be helped with what would have went to just me. So I picked criminal justice technology not thinking what my situation might be later on in life. I've been a computer geek since I was about 9 years old, and it's what I do for a hobby (mostly game, and media manipulation), and that was the farthest thing from what I wanted to do career wise because I did it for fun.

If I would have went IT back THEN, I would probably have a sweet 80k+ a year career by now, that isn't that demanding physically. My degree is terminal, meaning it's an AAS degree (applied associates in science), because at the time I was getting sick and the thought of going for my bachelors made me want to puke and pull my hair out at the same time.


As I said before, I think the only realistic solution would be just to carpet bomb every possible employer with a really well worded (and bending the truth) resume, and try to change my initial approach/interview tactics...But to be honest, I don't know how I can fully address my very large gaps in employment and not state how i'm on disability, and then the logical question why i'm on disability. A man has to eat, and if I say my mother supported me for 7+ years (which wasn't the case, but it's the next logical white lie I can think of to get away from admitting I have CF and am disabled) that will look HORRIBLE on my application/during the interview process, cause it makes me look like an absolute slacker/leech/loser when i'm not that way.

So I have no idea how to properly adjust my approach to deal with these issues as best as I can barring complete lieing, that would result in the best possible outcome for myself.
 

Faust

New member
<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>littledebbie</b></i><br>www.jobs.myflorida.com



Correctional officer trainee...working in a prison pays pretty decent I think, it would get you in the door.<hr></blockquote>



Yeah that was what I went for in my first example, where I ran into this big brick wall now and had that ahole background investigator. The real pisser now is that I feel 10 times better now due to the use of oregano oil and other essential oils than I did then, so while it's still possible, the chances of getting sick now due to CF seems almost impossible. Of course that would be another explanation that would probably fall on deaf ears also.


And yes, aside from biting my bottom lip and doing security and hating it, just for work experience, I would LOVE to get my foot in the door for either a local/state/federal government job. The overall problem is getting past their net of subversive discrimination due to my lack of work experience.
 

Faust

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>littledebbie</b></i><br>www.jobs.myflorida.com



Correctional officer trainee...working in a prison pays pretty decent I think, it would get you in the door.<hr></blockquote>



Yeah that was what I went for in my first example, where I ran into this big brick wall now and had that ahole background investigator. The real pisser now is that I feel 10 times better now due to the use of oregano oil and other essential oils than I did then, so while it's still possible, the chances of getting sick now due to CF seems almost impossible. Of course that would be another explanation that would probably fall on deaf ears also.


And yes, aside from biting my bottom lip and doing security and hating it, just for work experience, I would LOVE to get my foot in the door for either a local/state/federal government job. The overall problem is getting past their net of subversive discrimination due to my lack of work experience.
 
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65rosessamurai

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Out flat (or is it Flat-out; been out of touch with the english language for a spell!) lying is illegal, but stretching the truth, is another thing. My ex-had (or at least claimed she did) found a job for me when I came to japan, and I worked there for nearly 13 years. the problem with that, she lied to them about my schooling, and didn't say I had an associates, so they assumed my 4 years was for a bachelors!!
My family had highly suggested I find another job, and when the job I was in for 13 years was taking away my sanity, I went job searching.
I learned a lot about job searching (and quitting) in Japan, and felt much better about finding a job on my own merits.
However, I am not even NEAR the career I graduated for, I had to make a sacrifice for what I loved to do, for what I would still find rewarding. with my background in electronics, and my bilingual ability, I was able to find a job in translating, and so far, it has been quite easy (which is why I got time to post today-it's been slow!).
I would have to bluntly agree, if you could have done something to show a more "legitimate" work history, maybe your explanation for CF would not be in the works.
However, I would suggest some research in "Job Interviews" and talk with your lawyer friend (if feasable) in how to get around your "precarious" job history.
From one professional to another, I really wish you luck, Sean!
Regards, Fred
 
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65rosessamurai

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Out flat (or is it Flat-out; been out of touch with the english language for a spell!) lying is illegal, but stretching the truth, is another thing. My ex-had (or at least claimed she did) found a job for me when I came to japan, and I worked there for nearly 13 years. the problem with that, she lied to them about my schooling, and didn't say I had an associates, so they assumed my 4 years was for a bachelors!!
My family had highly suggested I find another job, and when the job I was in for 13 years was taking away my sanity, I went job searching.
I learned a lot about job searching (and quitting) in Japan, and felt much better about finding a job on my own merits.
However, I am not even NEAR the career I graduated for, I had to make a sacrifice for what I loved to do, for what I would still find rewarding. with my background in electronics, and my bilingual ability, I was able to find a job in translating, and so far, it has been quite easy (which is why I got time to post today-it's been slow!).
I would have to bluntly agree, if you could have done something to show a more "legitimate" work history, maybe your explanation for CF would not be in the works.
However, I would suggest some research in "Job Interviews" and talk with your lawyer friend (if feasable) in how to get around your "precarious" job history.
From one professional to another, I really wish you luck, Sean!
Regards, Fred
 
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