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Autogenic Drainage

Ender

New member
Risa thought it would be a good idea to post this in the adults section. I'll tell you how i do it, and then give you the detailed instructions.

I sit on the couch, with my elbows on my knees, back slightly bent, but as straight as possible. I also breath into a pillow, to increase resistance a bit, and keep the noise down. I start by taking in a small breath...holding for three seconds, and blowing out all the way. Make sure you use your diaphragm...to do this hold your stomach and make sure you are breathing in and out from there. It's a good work out for your stomach that's for sure.

Do this for a couple of minutes, or until you can hear crackling, and feel stuff moving. You might also have the urge to cough. Try to refrain from coughing, cause if you do at this stage, you have to start over. It is ok to take a break at any stage to catch your breath, just try not to cough. This phase works on your lower airways.

For the second stage, you do the same, but this time you take in bigger breaths. Do this until you feel you can huff or cough it up. This works it from the middle airways to the larger ones.

Now in the detailed instructions, they say you can do a third cycle, using even bigger breaths. I was told that the third stage is the huffing stage, so you can cough it up. I guess you can do whatever works for me. I find that after the second stage, I don't even need to huff, and i cough up a good amount.

You can even do this while doing aerosols. I find that using this technique while doing my HS saline is really amazing. Add in the vest, and you're really set <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

Here is the detailed description.

Autogenic Drainage

Autogenic drainage (AD) means self-drainage. It uses expiratory airflow to mobilize secretions. It was first developed in the 1960s to treat asthmatic patients. It is now being used widespread to treat patients with retention of secretions. The technique has certain advantages over conventional postural drainage and percussion. The patient can perform the technique alone in a sitting position.

This is a "concentration intensive" technique useful for people with cystic fibrosis, bronchiectasis, chronic bronchitis or other lung conditions that produce large volumes of retained secretions. Patients who can learn AD are 12 years or older and can learn a new breathing pattern. AD training requires one or two initial one-hour sessions with an instructor. One to three 30-45 minute follow-up teaching sessions may be needed.

Autogenic drainage utilizes expiratory airflow to mobilize mucus from the smaller airways first and central airways last. There are three phases of the breathing exercise:

"Unsticking" the mucus in the smaller airways by breathing at low lung volumes,
"Collecting" the mucus from the middle airways by breathing at low to mid lung volumes, and
"Evacuating" the mucus from the central airways by breathing at mid to high lung volumes.
Instruction:

Posture

Choose a breath-stimulating position like sitting or lying down, relaxed with the neck slightly extended.
Clear the upper airways (nose and throat) by huffing or blowing ones nose.
Breathing in

a) Slowly breathe in through the nose, keeping the upper airways open. Use the diaphragm and/or the lower chest if possible.
b) You should always breathe in a normal sized breath, but the level at which you breathe depends on where the mucus is located. Begin by low volume breathing. First take a normal sized breath in, then breathe out for as long as you can. Now you are at low lung volume. So for the next three phases of exercises you gradually expand your breathing up to a high lung volume.

Pause

Hold your breath for approximately 3 seconds during which all the upper airways should be kept open. This improves the even filling of all lung parts. The pause allows enough time for the air to get behind the secretions.
Breathing out

a) Preferably breathing out through the mouth. (You may breathe out through the nose, so long as the expiratory airflow velocity is not impeded).
b) Keep the upper airways open, (Glottis, throat and mouth). Do not slow down the expiratory airflow. In low lung volume breathing, breathing out is done in a sighing manner. If you force your breath out, it may cause the airways to compress thus, instead of increasing the speed of the expiratory airflow you will slow down the airflow. A sign of this is when you hear an audible wheeze on breathing out.

c) When breathing out in the proper way, often the mucus can be heard distinctly rattling along the airways. Or if you put your hand over the upper chest, you can also feel the mucus vibrating. High frequencies mean that the mucus is in the small airways, low frequencies mean that the mucus is located in the large airways. This feedback makes it possible and easy to adjust the technique.

d) At low lung volume breathing, you need to squeeze the air out by using your abdominal muscles, until you can breathe out no more. As you progress to the next level of breathing you need only breathe out the same volume of air as you breathed in.

Repeat

6. a) Repeat the cycle by breathing in. Inhale slowly avoiding the mucus going back. Continue to breathe at the low level breathing until the mucus starts to collect and moves upwards. Indications of this are:

Crackling of the mucus can be heard throughout all of expiration.
You feel the mucus moving up.
You feel a strong urge to cough.
When either or all of the above occurs, the level of breathing is gradually raised. Thus the breathing evolves from a lower to a higher lung volume breathing.

b) Finally the collected mucus reaches the large airways where from it can be evacuated by a stronger expiration or a high lung volume huff.

c) Don't cough until the mucus is in the larger airways and used after huffing if you need to assist in the expectoration of the mucus to the mouth.

d) You have now finished one cycle. Allow a break of one to two minutes where you should relax and perform breathing control before you start on the next cycle. The cycles are repeated throughout the session which may last between twenty to forty-five minutes until you feel that all the mucus has been expectorated. If you still have mucus present at the end of a session, please do more frequent sessions of AD.

Summary

When preparing for Autogentic Drainage relax, sit comfortably, and perform slow - controlled diaphragmatic breathing.

The Three Volume Levels of Autogenic Drainage

Level One: "Unsticking" of peripheral secretions is achieved by Alow lung volume breathing@. First, exhale completely, inhale a small breath, hold the breath for 1-3 seconds, then exhale completely again. This step is repeated for 1-3 minutes, or until crackles are heard at the beginning of expiration.

Level Two: "Collecting" the mucus in larger or mid-sized airways is achieved by taking in a slow medium-sized breath for 1-3 seconds, then exhaling to 1/3 to 1/2 of expiratory reserve volume (ERV). Repeat this step for 1-3 minutes, listening once again for crackles. When crackles are heard at the beginning of expiration, you should continue for 2-3 more breaths and then proceed to level III.

Level Three: "Evacuating" the mucus in the central airways is achieved by breathing at normal to high volumes. Take in a slow deep breath, holding the breath for 1-3 minutes, listening again for expiratory crackles.

Each level requires an average of 2-3 minutes, with the full cycle taking 6-9 minutes. When secretions are felt in the larger, central airways (usually in level III), do 2-3 effective "Huff" type coughs. The Huff cough maneuver uses the mid to high lung volumes in level III.

Coughing should be avoided if possible in levels I and II. If coughing is unavoidable, do 2-3 Huff coughs.

Important Remarks

When the mucus has been mobilized and evacuated as described, some of the remaining mucus has moved partially up the respiratory tract. This makes the collection and evacuation of the next mucus plug easier and quicker. It is like the mucus is transported a conveyer-belt.
During drainage sessions, positions can be changed to improve regional lung ventilation.
As said before, in AD, it is best to start with the mobilization of the peripheral mucus first from the small airways. Using a low-lung volume breathing, the flow rates in the larger airways are also affected so that the mucus is moved in most of the levels of airways simultaneously. Should the urge to cough be too strong due to mucus in the larger airways. These secretions should be cleared first.
Patients being initiated in AD can have problems breathing at low-lung volumes. You may commence to breathe at your natural tidal volume level and gradually go down to residual volume. Later during the session and also being more experienced, you will soon find out that breathing out more deeply is not so difficult, or you may want to intersperse one breath at normal tidal volume while breathing at low lung volume breathing.
The larger and thinner in consistency the collected mucus plug, the less expiratory force is needed to transport it upwards.
The duration of an AD session depends on the total amount and viscosity of the secretions. Experienced patients drain their lungs quicker than others. Drainage should always be done thoroughly. This way lung function will improve on the short and the long run. You should never do more than 1 hour of inhalation and drainage together per session. Also, AD may be done throughout the day.
Patients who drain well, improve their lung function. This improves their activity level which increases the spontaneous drainage during the day. The airways remain clearer over a longer period of time.
Accessory Techniques

To be able to practice these techniques you need to have the correct breathing pattern. This is necessary both for preventative and curative reasons. The use of accessory techniques such as breathing re-education, thoracic mobility exercises, relaxation training, functional breathing exercises and physical activities, are of the utmost importance to facilitate bronchial drainage in aiding the movement of mucus.

Aerosol therapy greatly improves the drainage when the highest deposition of the particles reaches those parts of the lung where needed especially upstream of obstructions. This is best accomplished by using the Autogenic Drainage Breathing Pattern.
 

anonymous

New member
I found autogenic drainage abosolutely fantastic. The part I loved most about it was that I really felt in tune with my body. I knew how i was feeling. I could do it anywhere, didn't require any gadget or anything. If i was driving a car I could sit and just go through the cycles while sitting in traffic! If anybody is interested I suggest you ask your physio to teach you. If you get a good teacher, you'll never look back..

Thanks Ender for posting that

Shamrock, x
 

anonymous

New member
Thanks for the detailed description of autogenic drainage. I really believe this is a more powerful and direct way of getting the mucus up then using the vest. However, the vest does work well as long as one is huffing at the same time I've recently discovered.

I was never trained in the autogenic drainage but I've used my own form of it for years and didn't know what I was doing. When I told the doctors they said, oh autogenic drainage, the first time I had heard of it. So I am glad to hear about a detailed description explaining it.

Recently I'd do my version while watching T.V. I usually drink two bottles of water(16oz. each) first, and sometimes three. I also sometimes drink a hot cup of coffee, but not all the time, since I strive to get off of coffee. I suppose one could do the pulmozyne or albuterol first. I used to do them but stopped doing them the last month or so because they made my O2 sat numbers going down. My theory is that all the water is going to your lungs making it easier for the stuff to come out. I did this for ten years on my own before I used a nebulizer with albuterol, pulmozyne, or hypertonic saline, only using the water and coffee. Lately I just lay in bed watching tv on my back with lots of pillow on my head so I can see of course. I just relax. Sometimes I even put my hands up behind my head like I am in a hammock relaxing in the sun. I feel inside my body that by doing that, I am opening up my lungs or giving them better access for the air to go down in there. I take a deep breath in and blow out with my mouth closed most times. It's so hard to write this because I have done it on automatic so many years that I have to redo it to think about what it is I am doing. As I blow the air out of my lungs, I am pushing up with my diaphragm so that my lungs are collapsed of air. When I do that I can hear everything in there moving around. You can blow out softly or strong, depending on how much energy one has. Of course the deeper or stronger you push the air out of your lungs, the more noises you can hear. Then of course you have to keep yourself from coughing until you can feel the mucus right there ready to come up. It seems that I am pushing down with some muscles on my lungs, while pushing up with the diapragm at the same time. I can usually get a large amount up every minute or so. At first, more comes up every couple of deep breaths if I am just starting in the morning. But for the stuff really deep in there, it takes about a minute to work itself up and out. The powerful part is that you can hear and feel where the noises are coming from in your chest and can adjust your diapragm to blow the air out by that section. You can also change your position for this. I can sit up sitting, "indian style" and do it. I can also feel that if I cross my arms also that while I am doing it I am pushing down on my chest as well as pushing up with my diapragm. You can do this really anywhere if you are feeling congested.

I was late diagnosed at 18 and after the initial month of trying all of the meds, I stopped doing any of them and stopped seeing the doctor because the meds made me feel really sick. Psychologically I wasn't able to handle seeing a doctor for my CF until I was 33 or so when I got such a bad congestion that my technique of working everything out was taking too much time. When I got a cold in the past, I just worked through it like healthy people and doing extra autogenic drainage to get everything out. I worked full time and did my treatment before work every morning. But a friend encouraged me to go to the doctor one time at 33 when I couldn't seem to beat my congestion. That was the first time that I did an oral dose of cipro. It was then that I started doing albuterol everyday, only in the morning. But again, it wasn't until I was 36 or so that I started taking Advair, Tobi, and trying pulmozyne and hypertonic saline. It was highly difficult for me to put myself into the "CF life" even though my younger brother had CF and did all of the treatments.

Anyways, that's just what I've been doing. I thought it might help someone, or be interesting to hear.
 

mic10467

New member
this anonymous posting about doing my own version of autogenic
drainage was me.  I was logged in but don't know what
happened.  <br>
<br>
My name is Michelle.  I will be 39 years old next month and
was late diagnosed at the age of 18.  I've been reading the
forums here since about April, but haven 't posted very much nor
introduced myself.  I live with my mother who has emphysema,
and my 34 year old brother who also has CF, but is living amazingly
well following a successful double lung transplant last October at
USC.  Also my nephew who is almost 1 1/2 was diagnosed with CF
at 3 months despite doing the carrier testing before his birth.
 They only tested for the common 25 mutations before birth,
 and his mother had a novel mutation which they found on the
more extensive ambry test ,after the baby was 3 months old.  
 
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