Cipro vs. Ciprofloxin

[LouLou]

I'll never use generic Cipro again. In beginning of Oct. I was on Ciprofloxin (the generic) by man'furer INX. It tasted bad and smelled. I took it anyway. I had numerous side effects much of which I've had everytime I've been on Ciprofloxin. I don't know when I was ever on the brand...I've been taking the generic on average 1x per year. Got a new side effect this time...vasculitis which I can't prove is in fact from this drug but I had to go off of it. Well at the end of Oct. I had to go back on it. This time around I checked the box myself that said no generics. I also filed a complaint with INX who insisted that the batch was fine that my drug came from. The system sucks - the pharmacies should be able to handle this concern...like I have time to be calling here, sending pills there, blah, blah but if we don't who will?

Anyway I'm on the brand Cipro now. No diarrhea for the first time in years while on it.

I just thought I should share this with you all. Personally I'm on anx so infrequently that paying a little more for brand if it makes a difference is worth it to me.

I know generics are supposedly within acceptable ranges of equality to the brand but who's checking....I bet it's on their back. Yet another thing that is wrong with the system.

 

[LouLou]

I'll never use generic Cipro again. In beginning of Oct. I was on Ciprofloxin (the generic) by man'furer INX. It tasted bad and smelled. I took it anyway. I had numerous side effects much of which I've had everytime I've been on Ciprofloxin. I don't know when I was ever on the brand...I've been taking the generic on average 1x per year. Got a new side effect this time...vasculitis which I can't prove is in fact from this drug but I had to go off of it. Well at the end of Oct. I had to go back on it. This time around I checked the box myself that said no generics. I also filed a complaint with INX who insisted that the batch was fine that my drug came from. The system sucks - the pharmacies should be able to handle this concern...like I have time to be calling here, sending pills there, blah, blah but if we don't who will?

Anyway I'm on the brand Cipro now. No diarrhea for the first time in years while on it.

I just thought I should share this with you all. Personally I'm on anx so infrequently that paying a little more for brand if it makes a difference is worth it to me.

I know generics are supposedly within acceptable ranges of equality to the brand but who's checking....I bet it's on their back. Yet another thing that is wrong with the system.

 

[LouLou]

I'll never use generic Cipro again. In beginning of Oct. I was on Ciprofloxin (the generic) by man'furer INX. It tasted bad and smelled. I took it anyway. I had numerous side effects much of which I've had everytime I've been on Ciprofloxin. I don't know when I was ever on the brand...I've been taking the generic on average 1x per year. Got a new side effect this time...vasculitis which I can't prove is in fact from this drug but I had to go off of it. Well at the end of Oct. I had to go back on it. This time around I checked the box myself that said no generics. I also filed a complaint with INX who insisted that the batch was fine that my drug came from. The system sucks - the pharmacies should be able to handle this concern...like I have time to be calling here, sending pills there, blah, blah but if we don't who will?

Anyway I'm on the brand Cipro now. No diarrhea for the first time in years while on it.

I just thought I should share this with you all. Personally I'm on anx so infrequently that paying a little more for brand if it makes a difference is worth it to me.

I know generics are supposedly within acceptable ranges of equality to the brand but who's checking....I bet it's on their back. Yet another thing that is wrong with the system.

 

[LouLou]

I'll never use generic Cipro again. In beginning of Oct. I was on Ciprofloxin (the generic) by man'furer INX. It tasted bad and smelled. I took it anyway. I had numerous side effects much of which I've had everytime I've been on Ciprofloxin. I don't know when I was ever on the brand...I've been taking the generic on average 1x per year. Got a new side effect this time...vasculitis which I can't prove is in fact from this drug but I had to go off of it. Well at the end of Oct. I had to go back on it. This time around I checked the box myself that said no generics. I also filed a complaint with INX who insisted that the batch was fine that my drug came from. The system sucks - the pharmacies should be able to handle this concern...like I have time to be calling here, sending pills there, blah, blah but if we don't who will?

Anyway I'm on the brand Cipro now. No diarrhea for the first time in years while on it.

I just thought I should share this with you all. Personally I'm on anx so infrequently that paying a little more for brand if it makes a difference is worth it to me.

I know generics are supposedly within acceptable ranges of equality to the brand but who's checking....I bet it's on their back. Yet another thing that is wrong with the system.

 

[LouLou]

I'll never use generic Cipro again. In beginning of Oct. I was on Ciprofloxin (the generic) by man'furer INX. It tasted bad and smelled. I took it anyway. I had numerous side effects much of which I've had everytime I've been on Ciprofloxin. I don't know when I was ever on the brand...I've been taking the generic on average 1x per year. Got a new side effect this time...vasculitis which I can't prove is in fact from this drug but I had to go off of it. Well at the end of Oct. I had to go back on it. This time around I checked the box myself that said no generics. I also filed a complaint with INX who insisted that the batch was fine that my drug came from. The system sucks - the pharmacies should be able to handle this concern...like I have time to be calling here, sending pills there, blah, blah but if we don't who will?

Anyway I'm on the brand Cipro now. No diarrhea for the first time in years while on it.

I just thought I should share this with you all. Personally I'm on anx so infrequently that paying a little more for brand if it makes a difference is worth it to me.

I know generics are supposedly within acceptable ranges of equality to the brand but who's checking....I bet it's on their back. Yet another thing that is wrong with the system.

 

[wanderlost]

Interesting observation. I was on cipro and cephalxin (or however it's spelled) last month and Marlee and I did get a touch of diarreah - I have no idea if i was generic cipro or not, but based on dh's crappy insurance, I would say yes - and we were both taking probiotics at the same time. This was only the 2nd time I have taken cipro - and the first time wasn't even Cf related, so I only took half the dose for half time time I did this one, so I don't have much to compare with.

 

[wanderlost]

Interesting observation. I was on cipro and cephalxin (or however it's spelled) last month and Marlee and I did get a touch of diarreah - I have no idea if i was generic cipro or not, but based on dh's crappy insurance, I would say yes - and we were both taking probiotics at the same time. This was only the 2nd time I have taken cipro - and the first time wasn't even Cf related, so I only took half the dose for half time time I did this one, so I don't have much to compare with.

 

[wanderlost]

Interesting observation. I was on cipro and cephalxin (or however it's spelled) last month and Marlee and I did get a touch of diarreah - I have no idea if i was generic cipro or not, but based on dh's crappy insurance, I would say yes - and we were both taking probiotics at the same time. This was only the 2nd time I have taken cipro - and the first time wasn't even Cf related, so I only took half the dose for half time time I did this one, so I don't have much to compare with.

 

[wanderlost]

Interesting observation. I was on cipro and cephalxin (or however it's spelled) last month and Marlee and I did get a touch of diarreah - I have no idea if i was generic cipro or not, but based on dh's crappy insurance, I would say yes - and we were both taking probiotics at the same time. This was only the 2nd time I have taken cipro - and the first time wasn't even Cf related, so I only took half the dose for half time time I did this one, so I don't have much to compare with.

 

[wanderlost]

Interesting observation. I was on cipro and cephalxin (or however it's spelled) last month and Marlee and I did get a touch of diarreah - I have no idea if i was generic cipro or not, but based on dh's crappy insurance, I would say yes - and we were both taking probiotics at the same time. This was only the 2nd time I have taken cipro - and the first time wasn't even Cf related, so I only took half the dose for half time time I did this one, so I don't have much to compare with.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

I know generics are supposedly within acceptable ranges of equality to the brand but who's checking....I bet it's on their back. Yet another thing that is wrong with the system.</end quote></div>

It's actually the FDA that checks for bioequivalency.

In order for prices to be cheaper, which everyone wants, generics have to be a part of the system. How do you make the drugs cheaper (which everyone always spazzes about) - remove clinical trials from the mix. Generic manufacturers only have to conduct in vitro bioequivalency studies.

The system is exactly the same in Europe, Canada, blah blah. So you can't blame our health system on that.

The only thing that's guaranteed from the FDA regarding generics is active ingredient bioequivalency. Generics can have varying inactive ingredients.

And it's not the manufacturer's fault if you have an adverse event. Everyone's body is different and reacts to things differently.

Drugs have side effects. It's frustrating. It sucks. It's hard. But it's a fact of life.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

I know generics are supposedly within acceptable ranges of equality to the brand but who's checking....I bet it's on their back. Yet another thing that is wrong with the system.</end quote></div>

It's actually the FDA that checks for bioequivalency.

In order for prices to be cheaper, which everyone wants, generics have to be a part of the system. How do you make the drugs cheaper (which everyone always spazzes about) - remove clinical trials from the mix. Generic manufacturers only have to conduct in vitro bioequivalency studies.

The system is exactly the same in Europe, Canada, blah blah. So you can't blame our health system on that.

The only thing that's guaranteed from the FDA regarding generics is active ingredient bioequivalency. Generics can have varying inactive ingredients.

And it's not the manufacturer's fault if you have an adverse event. Everyone's body is different and reacts to things differently.

Drugs have side effects. It's frustrating. It sucks. It's hard. But it's a fact of life.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

I know generics are supposedly within acceptable ranges of equality to the brand but who's checking....I bet it's on their back. Yet another thing that is wrong with the system.</end quote></div>

It's actually the FDA that checks for bioequivalency.

In order for prices to be cheaper, which everyone wants, generics have to be a part of the system. How do you make the drugs cheaper (which everyone always spazzes about) - remove clinical trials from the mix. Generic manufacturers only have to conduct in vitro bioequivalency studies.

The system is exactly the same in Europe, Canada, blah blah. So you can't blame our health system on that.

The only thing that's guaranteed from the FDA regarding generics is active ingredient bioequivalency. Generics can have varying inactive ingredients.

And it's not the manufacturer's fault if you have an adverse event. Everyone's body is different and reacts to things differently.

Drugs have side effects. It's frustrating. It sucks. It's hard. But it's a fact of life.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

I know generics are supposedly within acceptable ranges of equality to the brand but who's checking....I bet it's on their back. Yet another thing that is wrong with the system.</end quote>

It's actually the FDA that checks for bioequivalency.

In order for prices to be cheaper, which everyone wants, generics have to be a part of the system. How do you make the drugs cheaper (which everyone always spazzes about) - remove clinical trials from the mix. Generic manufacturers only have to conduct in vitro bioequivalency studies.

The system is exactly the same in Europe, Canada, blah blah. So you can't blame our health system on that.

The only thing that's guaranteed from the FDA regarding generics is active ingredient bioequivalency. Generics can have varying inactive ingredients.

And it's not the manufacturer's fault if you have an adverse event. Everyone's body is different and reacts to things differently.

Drugs have side effects. It's frustrating. It sucks. It's hard. But it's a fact of life.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

I know generics are supposedly within acceptable ranges of equality to the brand but who's checking....I bet it's on their back. Yet another thing that is wrong with the system.</end quote>

It's actually the FDA that checks for bioequivalency.

In order for prices to be cheaper, which everyone wants, generics have to be a part of the system. How do you make the drugs cheaper (which everyone always spazzes about) - remove clinical trials from the mix. Generic manufacturers only have to conduct in vitro bioequivalency studies.

The system is exactly the same in Europe, Canada, blah blah. So you can't blame our health system on that.

The only thing that's guaranteed from the FDA regarding generics is active ingredient bioequivalency. Generics can have varying inactive ingredients.

And it's not the manufacturer's fault if you have an adverse event. Everyone's body is different and reacts to things differently.

Drugs have side effects. It's frustrating. It sucks. It's hard. But it's a fact of life.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>
I did get a touch of diarreah - I have no idea if i was generic cipro or not, but based on dh's crappy insurance, I would say yes - and we were both taking probiotics at the same time. .</end quote></div>

What causes diarrhea with abx is the fact that abx can stimulate the intestines to contract more frequently.

When stool goes through the intestines, water is removed. Stool moves through the intestines through contractions of the intestines.

Are you constipated? The stool didn't move through your instestines fast enough, and therefore TOO MUCH water was removed. You're constipated.

Diarrhea? The stool moved TOO QUICKLY through your intestines and not enough water was re-absorbed into the body.

True, C. diff and fatty stools are diarrhea as well. But when it's directly correlated to abx use, it's simply because the stool moved through your intestines too quickly.

And that's not something probiotics can affect....



And on a side note, be cause of taking too little Cipro in too little of a duration of time. You could be inducing PA resistance even though you're not taking Cipro for a problem in your lungs. The abx don't discriminate where in the body they go....

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>
I did get a touch of diarreah - I have no idea if i was generic cipro or not, but based on dh's crappy insurance, I would say yes - and we were both taking probiotics at the same time. .</end quote></div>

What causes diarrhea with abx is the fact that abx can stimulate the intestines to contract more frequently.

When stool goes through the intestines, water is removed. Stool moves through the intestines through contractions of the intestines.

Are you constipated? The stool didn't move through your instestines fast enough, and therefore TOO MUCH water was removed. You're constipated.

Diarrhea? The stool moved TOO QUICKLY through your intestines and not enough water was re-absorbed into the body.

True, C. diff and fatty stools are diarrhea as well. But when it's directly correlated to abx use, it's simply because the stool moved through your intestines too quickly.

And that's not something probiotics can affect....



And on a side note, be cause of taking too little Cipro in too little of a duration of time. You could be inducing PA resistance even though you're not taking Cipro for a problem in your lungs. The abx don't discriminate where in the body they go....

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>
I did get a touch of diarreah - I have no idea if i was generic cipro or not, but based on dh's crappy insurance, I would say yes - and we were both taking probiotics at the same time. .</end quote></div>

What causes diarrhea with abx is the fact that abx can stimulate the intestines to contract more frequently.

When stool goes through the intestines, water is removed. Stool moves through the intestines through contractions of the intestines.

Are you constipated? The stool didn't move through your instestines fast enough, and therefore TOO MUCH water was removed. You're constipated.

Diarrhea? The stool moved TOO QUICKLY through your intestines and not enough water was re-absorbed into the body.

True, C. diff and fatty stools are diarrhea as well. But when it's directly correlated to abx use, it's simply because the stool moved through your intestines too quickly.

And that's not something probiotics can affect....



And on a side note, be cause of taking too little Cipro in too little of a duration of time. You could be inducing PA resistance even though you're not taking Cipro for a problem in your lungs. The abx don't discriminate where in the body they go....

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>
I did get a touch of diarreah - I have no idea if i was generic cipro or not, but based on dh's crappy insurance, I would say yes - and we were both taking probiotics at the same time. .</end quote>

What causes diarrhea with abx is the fact that abx can stimulate the intestines to contract more frequently.

When stool goes through the intestines, water is removed. Stool moves through the intestines through contractions of the intestines.

Are you constipated? The stool didn't move through your instestines fast enough, and therefore TOO MUCH water was removed. You're constipated.

Diarrhea? The stool moved TOO QUICKLY through your intestines and not enough water was re-absorbed into the body.

True, C. diff and fatty stools are diarrhea as well. But when it's directly correlated to abx use, it's simply because the stool moved through your intestines too quickly.

And that's not something probiotics can affect....



And on a side note, be cause of taking too little Cipro in too little of a duration of time. You could be inducing PA resistance even though you're not taking Cipro for a problem in your lungs. The abx don't discriminate where in the body they go....

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>
I did get a touch of diarreah - I have no idea if i was generic cipro or not, but based on dh's crappy insurance, I would say yes - and we were both taking probiotics at the same time. .</end quote>

What causes diarrhea with abx is the fact that abx can stimulate the intestines to contract more frequently.

When stool goes through the intestines, water is removed. Stool moves through the intestines through contractions of the intestines.

Are you constipated? The stool didn't move through your instestines fast enough, and therefore TOO MUCH water was removed. You're constipated.

Diarrhea? The stool moved TOO QUICKLY through your intestines and not enough water was re-absorbed into the body.

True, C. diff and fatty stools are diarrhea as well. But when it's directly correlated to abx use, it's simply because the stool moved through your intestines too quickly.

And that's not something probiotics can affect....



And on a side note, be cause of taking too little Cipro in too little of a duration of time. You could be inducing PA resistance even though you're not taking Cipro for a problem in your lungs. The abx don't discriminate where in the body they go....