Compressors for nebulizers

[chipper28]

Ok, I looked up eflow because of the above post and I want one! I like the new gadgets, but it also just seems like a good idea. Small, uses batteries, quiet, fast... Hell, can I propose to the thing?

I found some information that seems to imply that it's available in Europe, but in the states you can only get it as a part of a clinical trial.

If anyone actually knows anything about the eflow, I would be elated to hear about it. Are the special preparations of pulmozyme and tobi for the eflow available here?


Edited to add: blah.. looks like cost is not the problem.. you can't even buy one if you want one... they're just available on leases as part of a study.. oh well, maybe soon?

 

[chipper28]

Ok, I looked up eflow because of the above post and I want one! I like the new gadgets, but it also just seems like a good idea. Small, uses batteries, quiet, fast... Hell, can I propose to the thing?

I found some information that seems to imply that it's available in Europe, but in the states you can only get it as a part of a clinical trial.

If anyone actually knows anything about the eflow, I would be elated to hear about it. Are the special preparations of pulmozyme and tobi for the eflow available here?


Edited to add: blah.. looks like cost is not the problem.. you can't even buy one if you want one... they're just available on leases as part of a study.. oh well, maybe soon?

 

[anonymous]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

PARI Trek is NOT approved for Pulmozyme use!!!!!!!!

It still shocks me how many CFers don't know this.

Particles are not small enough to deposit in the lungs.

PARI ProNeb Ultra is what I use. Although I replace it every 3 years (they lose efficacy over time).

Please please please avoid the PARI Trek.</end quote></div>

I disagree. The compressor does not determine particle size, the flow and the nebulizer do. Most modern compressors generate a flow in the range of 6-8 L/min, which is more than sufficient to produce particle sizes that are delivered deep enough into the lungs. The Sidestream or a Pari LC Plus nebulizer are designed to reduce pressure drop in the system, thereby turning the tubing/nebulizer system into what is known as a Venturi tube.

Calculating the flow involves some simple calculus that I doubt anyone is particularly interested in here, so I'll spare you that part.

In summary, if the flow from the compressor is 6-8L/min and the patient is using a Pari LC plus or Sidestream nebulizer, <b>and</b> has lung function that enables them to breathe at a flow that exceeds that of the compressor, then one can reasonably conclude that Pulmozyme can be used effectively with the Pari Trek.

 

[anonymous]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

PARI Trek is NOT approved for Pulmozyme use!!!!!!!!

It still shocks me how many CFers don't know this.

Particles are not small enough to deposit in the lungs.

PARI ProNeb Ultra is what I use. Although I replace it every 3 years (they lose efficacy over time).

Please please please avoid the PARI Trek.</end quote></div>

I disagree. The compressor does not determine particle size, the flow and the nebulizer do. Most modern compressors generate a flow in the range of 6-8 L/min, which is more than sufficient to produce particle sizes that are delivered deep enough into the lungs. The Sidestream or a Pari LC Plus nebulizer are designed to reduce pressure drop in the system, thereby turning the tubing/nebulizer system into what is known as a Venturi tube.

Calculating the flow involves some simple calculus that I doubt anyone is particularly interested in here, so I'll spare you that part.

In summary, if the flow from the compressor is 6-8L/min and the patient is using a Pari LC plus or Sidestream nebulizer, <b>and</b> has lung function that enables them to breathe at a flow that exceeds that of the compressor, then one can reasonably conclude that Pulmozyme can be used effectively with the Pari Trek.

 

[anonymous]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

PARI Trek is NOT approved for Pulmozyme use!!!!!!!!

It still shocks me how many CFers don't know this.

Particles are not small enough to deposit in the lungs.

PARI ProNeb Ultra is what I use. Although I replace it every 3 years (they lose efficacy over time).

Please please please avoid the PARI Trek.</end quote></div>

I disagree. The compressor does not determine particle size, the flow and the nebulizer do. Most modern compressors generate a flow in the range of 6-8 L/min, which is more than sufficient to produce particle sizes that are delivered deep enough into the lungs. The Sidestream or a Pari LC Plus nebulizer are designed to reduce pressure drop in the system, thereby turning the tubing/nebulizer system into what is known as a Venturi tube.

Calculating the flow involves some simple calculus that I doubt anyone is particularly interested in here, so I'll spare you that part.

In summary, if the flow from the compressor is 6-8L/min and the patient is using a Pari LC plus or Sidestream nebulizer, <b>and</b> has lung function that enables them to breathe at a flow that exceeds that of the compressor, then one can reasonably conclude that Pulmozyme can be used effectively with the Pari Trek.

 

[anonymous]

We have recently upgraded from the pulmo-aide to the
Mobilaire, the difference is the psi, which goes from 25 psi to 50 psi.
This reduces the particle size of the medicines which should lead to deeper lung penetration it also drastically reduces the time required to administer Pulmozyme and albuterol.
It also allows you to control the psi, which should allow you to use it for Tobi or other medicines that require a lower psi. It is about half as loud as the pulmo-aide, and we are very happy we made the decision to switch. The only downside is we had to get a hose clamp to keep the tubing from blowing off (75 cents at any hardware store).

 

[anonymous]

We have recently upgraded from the pulmo-aide to the
Mobilaire, the difference is the psi, which goes from 25 psi to 50 psi.
This reduces the particle size of the medicines which should lead to deeper lung penetration it also drastically reduces the time required to administer Pulmozyme and albuterol.
It also allows you to control the psi, which should allow you to use it for Tobi or other medicines that require a lower psi. It is about half as loud as the pulmo-aide, and we are very happy we made the decision to switch. The only downside is we had to get a hose clamp to keep the tubing from blowing off (75 cents at any hardware store).

 

[anonymous]

We have recently upgraded from the pulmo-aide to the
Mobilaire, the difference is the psi, which goes from 25 psi to 50 psi.
This reduces the particle size of the medicines which should lead to deeper lung penetration it also drastically reduces the time required to administer Pulmozyme and albuterol.
It also allows you to control the psi, which should allow you to use it for Tobi or other medicines that require a lower psi. It is about half as loud as the pulmo-aide, and we are very happy we made the decision to switch. The only downside is we had to get a hose clamp to keep the tubing from blowing off (75 cents at any hardware store).