Dishwasher warning

[folione]

I took apart the door of my dishwasher recently and was completely disgusted with what I found. Inside the door I found black mold and accumulated food/grease slime in abundance. I'm not talking hamster-sized loafs of mold, but rather a layer coating many of the interior plastic & metal surfaces and crevices and some pea-sized blobs inside the steam vent.

It was pretty obvious how it got there: there is a steam vent through the top of the door and another set of vents along the bottom edge both of which provide opening to the interior space inside the door. This is a 9 year old dishwasher, but I went to the appliance store last weekend to look at the current models and found similar design in all of them, including the most expensive types from both US and European manufacturers. One or two seemed not to have the vents along the bottom edge, but a steam vent someplace seems a universal feature.

We don't have a mold or ventilation problem in the house at all; we use the dishwasher at least once per day and everything comes out spotless so I have no reason to believe it is a defective unit: I think it is just a fairly universal design problem that permits steam laden with food particles to get to places in the machine that don't easily dry out.

I guess my point is that dishwashers might not be the best choice for cleaning nebulize cups despite what some of the literature claims.

 

[folione]

I took apart the door of my dishwasher recently and was completely disgusted with what I found. Inside the door I found black mold and accumulated food/grease slime in abundance. I'm not talking hamster-sized loafs of mold, but rather a layer coating many of the interior plastic & metal surfaces and crevices and some pea-sized blobs inside the steam vent.

It was pretty obvious how it got there: there is a steam vent through the top of the door and another set of vents along the bottom edge both of which provide opening to the interior space inside the door. This is a 9 year old dishwasher, but I went to the appliance store last weekend to look at the current models and found similar design in all of them, including the most expensive types from both US and European manufacturers. One or two seemed not to have the vents along the bottom edge, but a steam vent someplace seems a universal feature.

We don't have a mold or ventilation problem in the house at all; we use the dishwasher at least once per day and everything comes out spotless so I have no reason to believe it is a defective unit: I think it is just a fairly universal design problem that permits steam laden with food particles to get to places in the machine that don't easily dry out.

I guess my point is that dishwashers might not be the best choice for cleaning nebulize cups despite what some of the literature claims.

 

[folione]

I took apart the door of my dishwasher recently and was completely disgusted with what I found. Inside the door I found black mold and accumulated food/grease slime in abundance. I'm not talking hamster-sized loafs of mold, but rather a layer coating many of the interior plastic & metal surfaces and crevices and some pea-sized blobs inside the steam vent.

It was pretty obvious how it got there: there is a steam vent through the top of the door and another set of vents along the bottom edge both of which provide opening to the interior space inside the door. This is a 9 year old dishwasher, but I went to the appliance store last weekend to look at the current models and found similar design in all of them, including the most expensive types from both US and European manufacturers. One or two seemed not to have the vents along the bottom edge, but a steam vent someplace seems a universal feature.

We don't have a mold or ventilation problem in the house at all; we use the dishwasher at least once per day and everything comes out spotless so I have no reason to believe it is a defective unit: I think it is just a fairly universal design problem that permits steam laden with food particles to get to places in the machine that don't easily dry out.

I guess my point is that dishwashers might not be the best choice for cleaning nebulize cups despite what some of the literature claims.

 

[NoExcuses]

i agree.

i only use my dishwasher for washing nebs. never used it for anything else. ever.

thanks for posting

 

[NoExcuses]

i agree.

i only use my dishwasher for washing nebs. never used it for anything else. ever.

thanks for posting

 

[NoExcuses]

i agree.

i only use my dishwasher for washing nebs. never used it for anything else. ever.

thanks for posting

 

[lightNlife]

That experience is more likely the exception and not the rule. If you have a particularly old model, replace it! You may also have a leaky gasket or seal somewhere which is causing the uncommon moisture buildup.

Using a dishwasher for cleaning dishes is by FAR the safer, cleaner, healthier choice compared to hand-washing them. This is because the water temperature in the dishwasher is hot enough to eliminate dangerous bacteria that results from food residue.

Don't forgo the dishwasher just because of the bad vent experience. Taking apart the door was a bad move in the first place, because now you've made all that junk airborne.

Sakasuka, I hope you meant to write that you DON'T use your dishwasher for cleaning nebs. Using a bottle sterilizer or autoclave is much safer.

 

[lightNlife]

That experience is more likely the exception and not the rule. If you have a particularly old model, replace it! You may also have a leaky gasket or seal somewhere which is causing the uncommon moisture buildup.

Using a dishwasher for cleaning dishes is by FAR the safer, cleaner, healthier choice compared to hand-washing them. This is because the water temperature in the dishwasher is hot enough to eliminate dangerous bacteria that results from food residue.

Don't forgo the dishwasher just because of the bad vent experience. Taking apart the door was a bad move in the first place, because now you've made all that junk airborne.

Sakasuka, I hope you meant to write that you DON'T use your dishwasher for cleaning nebs. Using a bottle sterilizer or autoclave is much safer.

 

[lightNlife]

That experience is more likely the exception and not the rule. If you have a particularly old model, replace it! You may also have a leaky gasket or seal somewhere which is causing the uncommon moisture buildup.

Using a dishwasher for cleaning dishes is by FAR the safer, cleaner, healthier choice compared to hand-washing them. This is because the water temperature in the dishwasher is hot enough to eliminate dangerous bacteria that results from food residue.

Don't forgo the dishwasher just because of the bad vent experience. Taking apart the door was a bad move in the first place, because now you've made all that junk airborne.

Sakasuka, I hope you meant to write that you DON'T use your dishwasher for cleaning nebs. Using a bottle sterilizer or autoclave is much safer.

 

[NoExcuses]

no, i follow CFF instructions and i do use my dishwasher for cleaning my nebs. my water reaches the temp they specificy, but thanks for your input.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cff.org/ID=4441/TYPE=1708/StoppingSpreadGerms.pdf">http://www.cff.org/ID=4441/TYP...toppingSpreadGerms.pdf</a>

 

[NoExcuses]

no, i follow CFF instructions and i do use my dishwasher for cleaning my nebs. my water reaches the temp they specificy, but thanks for your input.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cff.org/ID=4441/TYPE=1708/StoppingSpreadGerms.pdf">http://www.cff.org/ID=4441/TYP...toppingSpreadGerms.pdf</a>

 

[NoExcuses]

no, i follow CFF instructions and i do use my dishwasher for cleaning my nebs. my water reaches the temp they specificy, but thanks for your input.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cff.org/ID=4441/TYPE=1708/StoppingSpreadGerms.pdf">http://www.cff.org/ID=4441/TYP...toppingSpreadGerms.pdf</a>

 

[LouLou]

Thank you foliene for your post.

I've never thought it a good idea (nor have my doctors) to wash/sterilize nebulizers in a dishwasher. This experience of yours only endorses my opinion of it being a bad idea.

 

[LouLou]

Thank you foliene for your post.

I've never thought it a good idea (nor have my doctors) to wash/sterilize nebulizers in a dishwasher. This experience of yours only endorses my opinion of it being a bad idea.

 

[LouLou]

Thank you foliene for your post.

I've never thought it a good idea (nor have my doctors) to wash/sterilize nebulizers in a dishwasher. This experience of yours only endorses my opinion of it being a bad idea.

 

[JazzysMom]

I would never do my nebs in the dishwasher UNLESS that was the ONLY thing I used it for and c'mon.....if I am going to have a dishwasher in my home. You damn well better bet that it will wash dishes!

 

[JazzysMom]

I would never do my nebs in the dishwasher UNLESS that was the ONLY thing I used it for and c'mon.....if I am going to have a dishwasher in my home. You damn well better bet that it will wash dishes!

 

[JazzysMom]

I would never do my nebs in the dishwasher UNLESS that was the ONLY thing I used it for and c'mon.....if I am going to have a dishwasher in my home. You damn well better bet that it will wash dishes!

 

[Scarlett81]

A resp tech at the hospital told me that the cff reccomendation of washing nebs in the dishwasher is an old school way of thinking-like going back 10-15 years. They said it really should be updated, but back then that was the most logical way to do it b/c that was the hottest water level.
Now they have autoclaves and bottle sterilizers, and I think thats the best. I just got a hospital grade bottle sterilizer from Avent. It set me back a bundle but I love it!! It takes 12 minutes to sterilize my nebs and I can fit 2 sidestreams in it at once.

Fyi-As far as dishwashers go, I only know this b/c we are soon to be remodeling our kitchen, but there is an 07 Bosch dishwasher that has mold protection/sanitizing protection build in underneath that messy vent on the bottom that traps all the old food. Also, you can pull out that vent much easier on this new model to clean it. On most dishwashers you can't take out the vent/grill to clean it. I think we're going to go with this model.

 

[Scarlett81]

A resp tech at the hospital told me that the cff reccomendation of washing nebs in the dishwasher is an old school way of thinking-like going back 10-15 years. They said it really should be updated, but back then that was the most logical way to do it b/c that was the hottest water level.
Now they have autoclaves and bottle sterilizers, and I think thats the best. I just got a hospital grade bottle sterilizer from Avent. It set me back a bundle but I love it!! It takes 12 minutes to sterilize my nebs and I can fit 2 sidestreams in it at once.

Fyi-As far as dishwashers go, I only know this b/c we are soon to be remodeling our kitchen, but there is an 07 Bosch dishwasher that has mold protection/sanitizing protection build in underneath that messy vent on the bottom that traps all the old food. Also, you can pull out that vent much easier on this new model to clean it. On most dishwashers you can't take out the vent/grill to clean it. I think we're going to go with this model.