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Encouraging Tobi

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jenhum

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agree with emily. you are certainly allowed to express your opinion to her, or discuss the matter with her doctors (which to me it sounds like she needs to do), but if you are forbidding her to do anything, then i think she needs to find someone that respects her a little more than that.
 
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ClashPunk82

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Yes she isn't your property and you are not her parent so you have no right to tell her what she can and can't do. If I had a bf like you, you would be out the door!!

Nicole 22 CF
 
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anonymous

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Two things: first, you guys are being way too hard on the boyfriend here. I believe he truly has her well being in mind here. I, too, do not do well w/ TOBI & I'm sure some of you that are blasting him here don't do well on TOBI & have admited it on these boards. TOBI made me so stinkin short of breath that I think I'm better off without it & she probably has this doctor trying to tell her it's best for her, but the boyfriend obviously spends more time w/ her & doesn't agree that it's best for her, because he sees how it affects her.
Secondly, Emily, just as you don't appreciate people pushing God down your throat, I don't appreciate you using His name in vain. That's just a good way to get this thread locked. If you're going to condemn God, and we have to read it, then be ready to take it when others share their faith here.
Elle
 
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Emily65Roses

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Pushing god down my throat and my expressing an opinion, using a word as I please are two different things. It's not as if I'm telling you you're a jackass for thinking he/she is real. You believe as you like, I don't give a damn. I also happen to be a firm believer in free speech. If you don't like my using "god" in vain, that would be like me complaining anytime any of you say god bless, or I'll pray for you. And I don't. I just don't wish to be told I'm stupid for not believing in any god, or to have you try and "convert" me. Talking about your gods and your religion is fine by me. There's a difference between free speech and MY RELIGION AND MY GOD ARE BETTER THAN YOURS!!! -- NO THEY'RE NOT!! -- YES THEY ARE!!! etc.
 
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julie

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She is just asking you to either respect her wishes of not using his name in vain, or shut the hell up when people want to come on this board and express their opinions about faith. You can't have your cake and eat it too Emily!

Julie
 
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anonymous

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Emily doesn't feel the need to refrain from using the word God and she shouldn't have to. I think if you have a problem with it then maybe you shouldn't read any of the threads because not everyone believes in God and not everyone thinks that taking God's name in vain is wrong. This is a place where people come to chat and vent about their CF and if I feel the need to say oh my god I'm sick of this then I will.

Nicole 22 CF
 
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anonymous

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Emily,
I have never pushed God down your throat, that's your free choice if you want to believe in God. Do I wish everyone did? Yes, but that's everyone's choice to make.
I just think there's a way to get the point across to the boyfriend w/o using obscenities. I'm guessing you had to know you would offend someone when you put that in there (and I know you don't give a damn what I think).
I don't think you're stupid for not believing in God. I actually believe quite the opposite about you--I am very impressed with knowledge you've shared on the boards & respect you for stating your opinions. I just try to state my opinions with out being in people's faces. You do as you please, as I know you will<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
I'm not wanting this to be a battle, just asking you to respect me & I'll do the same w/ you & not push God down your throat.
Elle
 
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Jo

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emily people come on this chat for support or advice, you are always looking for an argument and causing upset. get a life.
 
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anonymous

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did you even read that guys post saying he doesn't allow his gf to use Tobi. She was upset about that and so was I. Who is he to tell his gf what she can and can't take. And she doesn't cause trouble here I don't know what you are talking about.

Nicole 22 CF
 
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anonymous

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did you even read that guys post saying he doesn't allow his gf to use Tobi. She was upset about that and so was I. Who is he to tell his gf what she can and can't take. And she doesn't cause trouble here I don't know what you are talking about.

Nicole 22 CF
 
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Emily65Roses

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Elle, I didn't say you ever shoved religion down my throat. You haven't. I was simply making a point. I haven't got a single problem with you, and I'm sorry I offended you. However, being that I don't believe in any god personally, I don't see any problem in using the "name" in vain because I don't see it as a name, so much as a word, an idea, a theory.
Julie, I don't have a problem with people expressing their opinions and beliefs on religion, but there's a difference between sharing opinions, and telling others their opinions are wrong. If I was "having my cake and eating it too" I'd tell people I was offended everytime anyone ever says god or they're praying, etc. And I don't. Others can believe what they want, I don't care. If everyone believed in exactly the same things, it would get really boring really fast. I just speak up when people tell me my beliefs (or lack thereof) are wrong. I don't believe in god, but I don't tell people who do that they're wrong. Big difference there.
Jo, if you really want to throw around 3rd grade insults, I'm sure I could think of some. However, I imagine you have better things to do with your time. As do I.
And Nicole, thank you. <img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">
 
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anonymous

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Emily is not always looking for a fight at all; she is articulate and provides some of the best answers on this board, and usually makes a clear effort to consider all sides in her advice. It seems rather trivial to get mad at someone for cursing on a message board, whats the point!

Caitlin
 
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anonymous

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Nicole, we all seem to agree with emily about the guy telling his GF what to do and that he should get a life. I certainly agree with her on that point and think that girl deserves something better and who is he to tell her what to do. The point every one else is trying to make to emily is about something COMPLETEY OFF THE SUBJECT, that you can't have it both ways in life.
In this specific circumstance, she has told people before to refrain from preaching and talking about god on this site because that's not what it is for and she isn't religious so she doesn't want to hear it... Then someone else tells her that using his name in vain offends her and she would appreciate that it not be used. But that if she is going to continue to use it-which as an american she has freedom of speech, she doesn't have any right to tell someone not to preach about it on this site. She can't have it both ways, it's one or the other and life is a two way street of either respecting others and their wishes, or not doing that and having no one respect you. If she decides not to do that, then why can't someone else speak their mind about God. That's all people were trying to say.
I am religious, but I don't spread my beliefs on this website. I also don't let it offend me when people use his name in vain because it's not my place to tell them otherwise, but it might offend some people and a person had every right to simply ask.
I hope this helps,

Julie
 
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