Well said Havoc and I agree. Yeah the students irritate me at times, i'm grumpy when i'm sick anyway, but you are right, they have to learn on someone, so why not me? i think compared to a lot of other patients, CFers are probably fairly brave and unphased by medical procedures and needles etc, therefore we make ideal guinea pigs <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">