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HC 3200 (Obamacare)

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MiddleAgedLady

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Fascinating discussion! I have an electronic copy of the bill; trying to wade through it too. There have been a couple of helpful (to me) articles on this topic on the Wall St. Journal's site. Here are the links: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574378542143891778.html">http://online.wsj.com/article/...74378542143891778.html</a> "Sorting Fact from Fiction" about Obamacare, and
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574374463280098676.html.">http://online.wsj.com/article/...4374463280098676.html.</a> This 2nd one is about Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel's view of rationing care and scares the SOCKS off of me...

Joan: 55w/cf, cf arthralgia, PA, MRSA, bronchiectasis, asthma, 4 sinus surgeries, GERD, osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia
 
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MiddleAgedLady

Guest
Fascinating discussion! I have an electronic copy of the bill; trying to wade through it too. There have been a couple of helpful (to me) articles on this topic on the Wall St. Journal's site. Here are the links: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574378542143891778.html">http://online.wsj.com/article/...74378542143891778.html</a> "Sorting Fact from Fiction" about Obamacare, and
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574374463280098676.html.">http://online.wsj.com/article/...4374463280098676.html.</a> This 2nd one is about Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel's view of rationing care and scares the SOCKS off of me...

Joan: 55w/cf, cf arthralgia, PA, MRSA, bronchiectasis, asthma, 4 sinus surgeries, GERD, osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia
 
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MiddleAgedLady

Guest
Fascinating discussion! I have an electronic copy of the bill; trying to wade through it too. There have been a couple of helpful (to me) articles on this topic on the Wall St. Journal's site. Here are the links: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574378542143891778.html">http://online.wsj.com/article/...74378542143891778.html</a> "Sorting Fact from Fiction" about Obamacare, and
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574374463280098676.html.">http://online.wsj.com/article/...4374463280098676.html.</a> This 2nd one is about Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel's view of rationing care and scares the SOCKS off of me...

Joan: 55w/cf, cf arthralgia, PA, MRSA, bronchiectasis, asthma, 4 sinus surgeries, GERD, osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia
 
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MiddleAgedLady

Guest
Fascinating discussion! I have an electronic copy of the bill; trying to wade through it too. There have been a couple of helpful (to me) articles on this topic on the Wall St. Journal's site. Here are the links: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574378542143891778.html">http://online.wsj.com/article/...74378542143891778.html</a> "Sorting Fact from Fiction" about Obamacare, and
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574374463280098676.html.">http://online.wsj.com/article/...4374463280098676.html.</a> This 2nd one is about Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel's view of rationing care and scares the SOCKS off of me...

Joan: 55w/cf, cf arthralgia, PA, MRSA, bronchiectasis, asthma, 4 sinus surgeries, GERD, osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia
 
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MiddleAgedLady

Guest
Fascinating discussion! I have an electronic copy of the bill; trying to wade through it too. There have been a couple of helpful (to me) articles on this topic on the Wall St. Journal's site. Here are the links: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574378542143891778.html">http://online.wsj.com/article/...74378542143891778.html</a> "Sorting Fact from Fiction" about Obamacare, and
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574374463280098676.html.">http://online.wsj.com/article/...4374463280098676.html.</a> This 2nd one is about Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel's view of rationing care and scares the SOCKS off of me...
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<br />Joan: 55w/cf, cf arthralgia, PA, MRSA, bronchiectasis, asthma, 4 sinus surgeries, GERD, osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia
 
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bkc3

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I'm not sure why the plan has to be so complicated...
I have never seen so many pages of regulation that doesn't address a lions share of the issues....well since the stimulus...or cash for clunkers...well maybe I have <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">.
it is significantly cheaper for companies to pay a percentage of their payroll than to provide medical coverage. Especially smaller businesses.

It would be nice to see some help for catastrophic or chronic conditions. outside of that, I think the scope is too broad.
Even with "good" insurance, say you have an 80/20 plan, you could still face 15k per day for hospitalization and 8-12k per month in prescriptions...take 20% of that and this would bankrupt anyone that made median salary or less.

What would I do if I lost my job? since my sons and my condition is now "pre-existing"...
 
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bkc3

New member
I'm not sure why the plan has to be so complicated...
I have never seen so many pages of regulation that doesn't address a lions share of the issues....well since the stimulus...or cash for clunkers...well maybe I have <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">.
it is significantly cheaper for companies to pay a percentage of their payroll than to provide medical coverage. Especially smaller businesses.

It would be nice to see some help for catastrophic or chronic conditions. outside of that, I think the scope is too broad.
Even with "good" insurance, say you have an 80/20 plan, you could still face 15k per day for hospitalization and 8-12k per month in prescriptions...take 20% of that and this would bankrupt anyone that made median salary or less.

What would I do if I lost my job? since my sons and my condition is now "pre-existing"...
 
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bkc3

New member
I'm not sure why the plan has to be so complicated...
I have never seen so many pages of regulation that doesn't address a lions share of the issues....well since the stimulus...or cash for clunkers...well maybe I have <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">.
it is significantly cheaper for companies to pay a percentage of their payroll than to provide medical coverage. Especially smaller businesses.

It would be nice to see some help for catastrophic or chronic conditions. outside of that, I think the scope is too broad.
Even with "good" insurance, say you have an 80/20 plan, you could still face 15k per day for hospitalization and 8-12k per month in prescriptions...take 20% of that and this would bankrupt anyone that made median salary or less.

What would I do if I lost my job? since my sons and my condition is now "pre-existing"...
 
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bkc3

New member
I'm not sure why the plan has to be so complicated...
I have never seen so many pages of regulation that doesn't address a lions share of the issues....well since the stimulus...or cash for clunkers...well maybe I have <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">.
it is significantly cheaper for companies to pay a percentage of their payroll than to provide medical coverage. Especially smaller businesses.

It would be nice to see some help for catastrophic or chronic conditions. outside of that, I think the scope is too broad.
Even with "good" insurance, say you have an 80/20 plan, you could still face 15k per day for hospitalization and 8-12k per month in prescriptions...take 20% of that and this would bankrupt anyone that made median salary or less.

What would I do if I lost my job? since my sons and my condition is now "pre-existing"...
 
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bkc3

New member
I'm not sure why the plan has to be so complicated...
<br />I have never seen so many pages of regulation that doesn't address a lions share of the issues....well since the stimulus...or cash for clunkers...well maybe I have <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">.
<br />it is significantly cheaper for companies to pay a percentage of their payroll than to provide medical coverage. Especially smaller businesses.
<br />
<br />It would be nice to see some help for catastrophic or chronic conditions. outside of that, I think the scope is too broad.
<br />Even with "good" insurance, say you have an 80/20 plan, you could still face 15k per day for hospitalization and 8-12k per month in prescriptions...take 20% of that and this would bankrupt anyone that made median salary or less.
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<br />What would I do if I lost my job? since my sons and my condition is now "pre-existing"...
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
I saw that I would fall under the "tax exempt" since I live outside the US, however I question whether they'd allow me carry the insurance while I reside outside the US, especially when the country I'm in has a social insurance program of its own.

I wonder how well Julie would be able to interpret this insurance stuff? I'd imagine she'd have to be able to in order to keep up with her advocate service.
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
I saw that I would fall under the "tax exempt" since I live outside the US, however I question whether they'd allow me carry the insurance while I reside outside the US, especially when the country I'm in has a social insurance program of its own.

I wonder how well Julie would be able to interpret this insurance stuff? I'd imagine she'd have to be able to in order to keep up with her advocate service.
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
I saw that I would fall under the "tax exempt" since I live outside the US, however I question whether they'd allow me carry the insurance while I reside outside the US, especially when the country I'm in has a social insurance program of its own.

I wonder how well Julie would be able to interpret this insurance stuff? I'd imagine she'd have to be able to in order to keep up with her advocate service.
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
I saw that I would fall under the "tax exempt" since I live outside the US, however I question whether they'd allow me carry the insurance while I reside outside the US, especially when the country I'm in has a social insurance program of its own.

I wonder how well Julie would be able to interpret this insurance stuff? I'd imagine she'd have to be able to in order to keep up with her advocate service.
 
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65rosessamurai

Guest
I saw that I would fall under the "tax exempt" since I live outside the US, however I question whether they'd allow me carry the insurance while I reside outside the US, especially when the country I'm in has a social insurance program of its own.
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<br />I wonder how well Julie would be able to interpret this insurance stuff? I'd imagine she'd have to be able to in order to keep up with her advocate service.
 
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