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Inhaled vancomycin?

anonymous

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Ok i read a post that they have this available...but I'm not very aware of what vancomycin is...isn't it like a last resort antibiotic that they try to keep in reserve? If you inhaled it, would you become resistant fast, and is it safe to do it like a tobi treatment? Sounds intriguing, I'll have to look it up <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">

Kiel
 

Faust

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>Ok i read a post that they have this available...but I'm not very aware of what vancomycin is...isn't it like a last resort antibiotic that they try to keep in reserve? If you inhaled it, would you become resistant fast, and is it safe to do it like a tobi treatment? Sounds intriguing, I'll have to look it up <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">



Kiel<hr></blockquote>


Kiel, i'm going to punch you in the face with text...Ya ready? Call me on my cell phone when you are ready....


Ok 4 minutes passed, and you said you are ready. K here we go.../punch to the face. Ok dude, have you learned your lesson now or what?
 

anonymous

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hahahaha...I'm confused....are you trying to say i shouldn't go this route <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

*rubs face*
 

anonymous

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Hi this article was posted on the irish cf site: it sounds cool and I don't know what vancomycin is either but is it the same as colomycin (colistin) maybe thats really stupid?
anyway I think this sounds great:

Roo 28 cf.

First dry powder inhalation antibiotic for Cystic Fibrosis, Colobreath(Colomycin) will reach EU market after 2007.
Kirsty Barnes

04/01/2006 - Forest Laboratories, having developed what it believes is the world?s first dry powder inhalation system for antibiotics, is now conducting phase III trials on a new dry powder antibiotic formulation which promises to change the lives of cystic fibrosis sufferers by drastically reducing the daily treatment time.

The UK company is using a dry powder formulation of its existing antibiotic Colomycin (colistimethate sodium) in the new inhalation system called Colobreathe, for use by cystic fibrosis patients whose lungs are infected by pseudomonas aeruginosa bacteria.
The new drug delivery system will be small, resembling a pen, and uses an existing spring-loaded delivery device to distribute the contents of an antibiotic capsule when the patient inhales.
Currently patients with cystic fibrosis require the use of a nebuliser twice a day to administer their antibiotic medication, involving complex equipment and drug reconstitution, an encumbering process that can take 20-30 minutes each time.
?Our new system will reduce this total process down to a maximum of two minutes,? Dr Martin Goldman, senior medical advisor, Forest Laboratories, told In-PharmaTechnologist.com.

Because cystic fibrosis is primarily a disease of younger people, having to use a timely nebuliser is a main cause of patients not taking their medication regularly or properly. Thus a new method that can decrease the burden of treatment and offer these patients more freedom is highly sought after.
In fact, the whole market for respiratory medicines is shifting towards dry powder inhaled therapies that offer patients more convenience and more effective drug delivery, Goldman explained.
Cystic fibrosis is the most common lethal genetic disease in Caucasians, affecting about one in every 2,000, and causes the accumulation of thick and infected secretions in the lungs. These eventually lead to respiratory failure and an early death and people with cystic fibrosis have a life expectancy of just 30 years.
Pseudomonas aeruginosa is the most common pathogen causing these infections, and the vast majority of people with cystic fibrosis become chronically colonised with the organism.
Colomycin works by disrupting the structure of part of the bacterial cell membrane, causing the vital contents of the bacteria to leak out and eventually the death of the bacteria. This unique mode of action has meant that development of resistance is almost non-existent.
Forest Laboratories currently holds 80 per cent of the market in the UK and Ireland with its nebuliser version of Colomycin and expects its new inhaled product to capture a significant share in the European market.
?Although it will be more expensive than our nebuliser version, the new inhalation system it will still cheaper than TOBI (tobramycin), the only other licensed nebuliser system for cystic fibrosis on the European market,? said Goldman.
Because of its combined convenience of use and lower antibiotic resistance potential, Forest Laboratories' new formulation has now been granted orphan drug status by the European Medicines Evaluation Agency.
While still relatively uncommon, experience with other products has shown that products for treating opportunistic infections in cystic fibrosis can achieve reasonable revenues, as well as providing significant benefits to the patients.

Chiron is also now working on an inhaled version of its antibiotic, TOBI (tobramycin) and Bayer is collaborating with Nektar on the development of a dry powder inhaled formulation of its antibiotic, Cipro (ciprofloxacin).

However, Forest Laboratories is ahead of the game, with a multi-centre phase III clinical trial designed to confirm the efficacy of Colobreathe already underway in major cystic fibrosis centres in Europe, called the 'Freedom Study'.
The company is planning to expand the 'Freedom Study' during the next 12 months in up to 70 centres across Europe and expects Colobreathe to be available on the European market after 2007.
Dr Jane Davies of the Royal Brompton Hospital, London, who has participated in early studies of Colobreathe, said, "Early indications are that patients find this dry powder inhalation system easier to use, and preferable to the conventional nebuliser systems that they currently use to inhale antibiotics.?
?All indications are that cystic fibrosis patients will be able to inhale a full dose of antibiotic treatment in a matter of seconds. We are hopeful that this new presentation of a very well established and proven antibiotic will decrease the burden of treatment for patients with cystic fibrosis who can spend several hours a day administering their treatments using a powered nebuliser," said Davies.
The mother of one teenager in the study said that the product had allowed her son the freedom to spend the night at a friend's house for the first time in his life, said Goldman.

<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.in-pharmatechnologist.com/news/ng.asp?n=64845-forest-laborat">http://www.in-pharmatechnologist.com/news/ng.asp?n=64845-forest-laborat</a>
 

anonymous

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Okay now I do feel silly, just googled vancomycin and it's definitely not the same as Colistin. Looks like it's used in CF against MRSA . So my above post is really nothing to do with it but I found it an interesting development. I love anything that would mean less time doing my nebs!

Roo 28cf
 
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IG

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yum more hearing damaging medication

[I'm a bit bitter against vanco, but hey it saved my life] *shrugs
Vanco is usually a last resort drug. I'm not sure about the resistancies i.v. vs. inhaled. I'd think that it would be the same.
As for doing it in a treatment form, who knows. Maybe less/more damage than it previously caused before [i.e. liver, hearing, whatever]
 

anonymous

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My daughter cultures MRSA in her sinuses. Her CF doc told us that you could not inhale Vancomycin. We asked because we knew that Tobramycin could be inhaled for Pseudomonas in the sinuses.
 

anonymous

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Hey,

Yes in fact you can inhale vanco....I know because my doctor had me on it because I had MRSA. I get redmans from vanco iv. When I inhaled it I didn't get redmans(sp?). It was fine to inhale...but my doctor took me off it. It made me cough alot(more than my doctor even liked) I haven't grown MRSA in over a year and a half now.(I'm not saying that that is because of the vanco.) He has tried it with other patients here and it works for some of them.

Bethany (18yrs w/CF)
 
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IG

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if you get redman's it's easily treated with Benadryl via I.V.
I had Redman Syndrome the first 2 times of having vanco, finally treated me with Benadryl before each vanco dose... never had it again.
Pill form didn't do a thing for me, I.V.'s always worked though.
 

julie

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Vanco is 1 of 2 medications used to treat MRSA. Once your body becomes immune to those meds, if you have or ever get MRSA, you are pretty much out of luck. Doctors recommend it as a LAST resort in all situations!
 

JennifersHope

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Well for MRSA it can be sensitive to several drugs...tetracycline, vancomycin, and bactrim...are the three mine was sensitive to.. but they went straight to the top with me and gave me Zyvox.... which is the new "big wig" for MRSA.......

I think for me.. I would rather inhale something that works more for MRSA than for PSeduo.. or both.... since from what I have read on here MRSA is what has brought many of your PFTS down and increased the lung function... and MRSA was what I cultrured last...

I would be wiling to take the chance with Vanco since I had other drugs that still worked....well Zyvox...bactrim didn't do to much....

Jennifer
 
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