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Nagging pain

Uli

New member
Do you mean that one:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pfizer.ca/english/our%20products/consumer%20healthcare/muscle%20and%20joint%20pain%20relief/bengay/BENGAY%20Muscle%20Pain%20No%20Odour/default.asp?s=1
">http://www.pfizer.ca/english/o...default.asp?s=1
</a>

Thats not the one I use<img src="">
I use this:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.chattem.com/products/sprt.asp
">http://www.chattem.com/products/sprt.asp
</a>
Uli
 

Uli

New member
Do you mean that one:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pfizer.ca/english/our%20products/consumer%20healthcare/muscle%20and%20joint%20pain%20relief/bengay/BENGAY%20Muscle%20Pain%20No%20Odour/default.asp?s=1
">http://www.pfizer.ca/english/o...default.asp?s=1
</a>

Thats not the one I use<img src="">
I use this:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.chattem.com/products/sprt.asp
">http://www.chattem.com/products/sprt.asp
</a>
Uli
 

Uli

New member
Do you mean that one:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pfizer.ca/english/our%20products/consumer%20healthcare/muscle%20and%20joint%20pain%20relief/bengay/BENGAY%20Muscle%20Pain%20No%20Odour/default.asp?s=1
">http://www.pfizer.ca/english/o...default.asp?s=1
</a>

Thats not the one I use<img src="">
I use this:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.chattem.com/products/sprt.asp
">http://www.chattem.com/products/sprt.asp
</a>
Uli
 

Uli

New member
Do you mean that one:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.pfizer.ca/english/our%20products/consumer%20healthcare/muscle%20and%20joint%20pain%20relief/bengay/BENGAY%20Muscle%20Pain%20No%20Odour/default.asp?s=1
">http://www.pfizer.ca/english/o...default.asp?s=1
</a>

Thats not the one I use<img src="">
I use this:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.chattem.com/products/sprt.asp
">http://www.chattem.com/products/sprt.asp
</a>
Uli
 

mom2lillian

New member
I get alot of relief from massages and chiropractic adjustments. I dont know if it is the same or not but I recently started going to a new chiropractor and here is my experience:

They have said my back area in the upper back where lungs are at is so tight and one of the worst 'rib' cases they have seen in a long time. NOw I know someitmes a doctor will tell you this for other reasons (more treatments etc) but ironically she was out sick and her stand in had not even seen my chart because she was running behind and she told me the same thing and then went in to get my charrt to see how the doc was treating me since it was a 'challenging' case.

Since then we have discussed the affects that coughing and my CF can have on my neck and back. We are very intereted in this since i have always though maybe that is why mine is always so tight. I can only imagine that since I dont cough very much on a regular basis that there are many cf'ers out there with backs way tighter than mine. I was previously going to school to be a chiropractor so I am pretty interested in all this stuff one thing that is ver interesting to me is that everyone has what is called 1' and 2' inspiratory and expiratory muscles, normally you only need you 1' muscles but in times of increased distress such as illness you would also use your 2' ones I know that when I get sick my back gets very very sore, usually before I ever realize I am 'sick'. I think I have figured out it is from my 2' muscles kicking in. I imagine as lung function declines that the 2' muscles are always in use which would lead to more sore backs/ribs etc.

I woudl definately recommend massage to anyone. I have found a way for my chiropractors office to bill massage as a 'modality of treatment' using a specific billing code. If you are interested call a chiropractors office with a masseus and ask them about billing, then give them your insurance information and ask them to see what service are covered. If you are interested in the billing code I use PM me I cant remember it off the top of my head but I dont think they change per state or anythign like that. I had to give this code to my new office and they were surprised as the previous code they woudl bill massages with was never covered.

again I dont know if this is what it is but thought I woudl throw it out there.
 

mom2lillian

New member
I get alot of relief from massages and chiropractic adjustments. I dont know if it is the same or not but I recently started going to a new chiropractor and here is my experience:

They have said my back area in the upper back where lungs are at is so tight and one of the worst 'rib' cases they have seen in a long time. NOw I know someitmes a doctor will tell you this for other reasons (more treatments etc) but ironically she was out sick and her stand in had not even seen my chart because she was running behind and she told me the same thing and then went in to get my charrt to see how the doc was treating me since it was a 'challenging' case.

Since then we have discussed the affects that coughing and my CF can have on my neck and back. We are very intereted in this since i have always though maybe that is why mine is always so tight. I can only imagine that since I dont cough very much on a regular basis that there are many cf'ers out there with backs way tighter than mine. I was previously going to school to be a chiropractor so I am pretty interested in all this stuff one thing that is ver interesting to me is that everyone has what is called 1' and 2' inspiratory and expiratory muscles, normally you only need you 1' muscles but in times of increased distress such as illness you would also use your 2' ones I know that when I get sick my back gets very very sore, usually before I ever realize I am 'sick'. I think I have figured out it is from my 2' muscles kicking in. I imagine as lung function declines that the 2' muscles are always in use which would lead to more sore backs/ribs etc.

I woudl definately recommend massage to anyone. I have found a way for my chiropractors office to bill massage as a 'modality of treatment' using a specific billing code. If you are interested call a chiropractors office with a masseus and ask them about billing, then give them your insurance information and ask them to see what service are covered. If you are interested in the billing code I use PM me I cant remember it off the top of my head but I dont think they change per state or anythign like that. I had to give this code to my new office and they were surprised as the previous code they woudl bill massages with was never covered.

again I dont know if this is what it is but thought I woudl throw it out there.
 

mom2lillian

New member
I get alot of relief from massages and chiropractic adjustments. I dont know if it is the same or not but I recently started going to a new chiropractor and here is my experience:

They have said my back area in the upper back where lungs are at is so tight and one of the worst 'rib' cases they have seen in a long time. NOw I know someitmes a doctor will tell you this for other reasons (more treatments etc) but ironically she was out sick and her stand in had not even seen my chart because she was running behind and she told me the same thing and then went in to get my charrt to see how the doc was treating me since it was a 'challenging' case.

Since then we have discussed the affects that coughing and my CF can have on my neck and back. We are very intereted in this since i have always though maybe that is why mine is always so tight. I can only imagine that since I dont cough very much on a regular basis that there are many cf'ers out there with backs way tighter than mine. I was previously going to school to be a chiropractor so I am pretty interested in all this stuff one thing that is ver interesting to me is that everyone has what is called 1' and 2' inspiratory and expiratory muscles, normally you only need you 1' muscles but in times of increased distress such as illness you would also use your 2' ones I know that when I get sick my back gets very very sore, usually before I ever realize I am 'sick'. I think I have figured out it is from my 2' muscles kicking in. I imagine as lung function declines that the 2' muscles are always in use which would lead to more sore backs/ribs etc.

I woudl definately recommend massage to anyone. I have found a way for my chiropractors office to bill massage as a 'modality of treatment' using a specific billing code. If you are interested call a chiropractors office with a masseus and ask them about billing, then give them your insurance information and ask them to see what service are covered. If you are interested in the billing code I use PM me I cant remember it off the top of my head but I dont think they change per state or anythign like that. I had to give this code to my new office and they were surprised as the previous code they woudl bill massages with was never covered.

again I dont know if this is what it is but thought I woudl throw it out there.
 

mom2lillian

New member
I get alot of relief from massages and chiropractic adjustments. I dont know if it is the same or not but I recently started going to a new chiropractor and here is my experience:

They have said my back area in the upper back where lungs are at is so tight and one of the worst 'rib' cases they have seen in a long time. NOw I know someitmes a doctor will tell you this for other reasons (more treatments etc) but ironically she was out sick and her stand in had not even seen my chart because she was running behind and she told me the same thing and then went in to get my charrt to see how the doc was treating me since it was a 'challenging' case.

Since then we have discussed the affects that coughing and my CF can have on my neck and back. We are very intereted in this since i have always though maybe that is why mine is always so tight. I can only imagine that since I dont cough very much on a regular basis that there are many cf'ers out there with backs way tighter than mine. I was previously going to school to be a chiropractor so I am pretty interested in all this stuff one thing that is ver interesting to me is that everyone has what is called 1' and 2' inspiratory and expiratory muscles, normally you only need you 1' muscles but in times of increased distress such as illness you would also use your 2' ones I know that when I get sick my back gets very very sore, usually before I ever realize I am 'sick'. I think I have figured out it is from my 2' muscles kicking in. I imagine as lung function declines that the 2' muscles are always in use which would lead to more sore backs/ribs etc.

I woudl definately recommend massage to anyone. I have found a way for my chiropractors office to bill massage as a 'modality of treatment' using a specific billing code. If you are interested call a chiropractors office with a masseus and ask them about billing, then give them your insurance information and ask them to see what service are covered. If you are interested in the billing code I use PM me I cant remember it off the top of my head but I dont think they change per state or anythign like that. I had to give this code to my new office and they were surprised as the previous code they woudl bill massages with was never covered.

again I dont know if this is what it is but thought I woudl throw it out there.
 

mom2lillian

New member
I get alot of relief from massages and chiropractic adjustments. I dont know if it is the same or not but I recently started going to a new chiropractor and here is my experience:

They have said my back area in the upper back where lungs are at is so tight and one of the worst 'rib' cases they have seen in a long time. NOw I know someitmes a doctor will tell you this for other reasons (more treatments etc) but ironically she was out sick and her stand in had not even seen my chart because she was running behind and she told me the same thing and then went in to get my charrt to see how the doc was treating me since it was a 'challenging' case.

Since then we have discussed the affects that coughing and my CF can have on my neck and back. We are very intereted in this since i have always though maybe that is why mine is always so tight. I can only imagine that since I dont cough very much on a regular basis that there are many cf'ers out there with backs way tighter than mine. I was previously going to school to be a chiropractor so I am pretty interested in all this stuff one thing that is ver interesting to me is that everyone has what is called 1' and 2' inspiratory and expiratory muscles, normally you only need you 1' muscles but in times of increased distress such as illness you would also use your 2' ones I know that when I get sick my back gets very very sore, usually before I ever realize I am 'sick'. I think I have figured out it is from my 2' muscles kicking in. I imagine as lung function declines that the 2' muscles are always in use which would lead to more sore backs/ribs etc.

I woudl definately recommend massage to anyone. I have found a way for my chiropractors office to bill massage as a 'modality of treatment' using a specific billing code. If you are interested call a chiropractors office with a masseus and ask them about billing, then give them your insurance information and ask them to see what service are covered. If you are interested in the billing code I use PM me I cant remember it off the top of my head but I dont think they change per state or anythign like that. I had to give this code to my new office and they were surprised as the previous code they woudl bill massages with was never covered.

again I dont know if this is what it is but thought I woudl throw it out there.
 

mom2lillian

New member
I get alot of relief from massages and chiropractic adjustments. I dont know if it is the same or not but I recently started going to a new chiropractor and here is my experience:

They have said my back area in the upper back where lungs are at is so tight and one of the worst 'rib' cases they have seen in a long time. NOw I know someitmes a doctor will tell you this for other reasons (more treatments etc) but ironically she was out sick and her stand in had not even seen my chart because she was running behind and she told me the same thing and then went in to get my charrt to see how the doc was treating me since it was a 'challenging' case.

Since then we have discussed the affects that coughing and my CF can have on my neck and back. We are very intereted in this since i have always though maybe that is why mine is always so tight. I can only imagine that since I dont cough very much on a regular basis that there are many cf'ers out there with backs way tighter than mine. I was previously going to school to be a chiropractor so I am pretty interested in all this stuff one thing that is ver interesting to me is that everyone has what is called 1' and 2' inspiratory and expiratory muscles, normally you only need you 1' muscles but in times of increased distress such as illness you would also use your 2' ones I know that when I get sick my back gets very very sore, usually before I ever realize I am 'sick'. I think I have figured out it is from my 2' muscles kicking in. I imagine as lung function declines that the 2' muscles are always in use which would lead to more sore backs/ribs etc.

I woudl definately recommend massage to anyone. I have found a way for my chiropractors office to bill massage as a 'modality of treatment' using a specific billing code. If you are interested call a chiropractors office with a masseus and ask them about billing, then give them your insurance information and ask them to see what service are covered. If you are interested in the billing code I use PM me I cant remember it off the top of my head but I dont think they change per state or anythign like that. I had to give this code to my new office and they were surprised as the previous code they woudl bill massages with was never covered.

again I dont know if this is what it is but thought I woudl throw it out there.
 

Wheezie

New member
I get pains like what you've described all the time. The first few times it happened I went in and had x-rays - everything looked clear (no collapses, etc.) so it was attributed to "inflammation in the lining of the lungs," AKA Pleurisy, just as thefrogprincess said. I usually take motrin, but since you can't take anti-inflammitories (and if the pain is really bothering you a lot), I'd suggest vicodin or something along those lines. Note though, that vicodin can sometimes have a cough-supressing effect on some people so it's not always a good choice for us CFers - depends on the person I'm told. Also, if it's really concerning you, you might want to get checked out just for peace of mind. Keep us posted on how you're feeling...
 

Wheezie

New member
I get pains like what you've described all the time. The first few times it happened I went in and had x-rays - everything looked clear (no collapses, etc.) so it was attributed to "inflammation in the lining of the lungs," AKA Pleurisy, just as thefrogprincess said. I usually take motrin, but since you can't take anti-inflammitories (and if the pain is really bothering you a lot), I'd suggest vicodin or something along those lines. Note though, that vicodin can sometimes have a cough-supressing effect on some people so it's not always a good choice for us CFers - depends on the person I'm told. Also, if it's really concerning you, you might want to get checked out just for peace of mind. Keep us posted on how you're feeling...
 

Wheezie

New member
I get pains like what you've described all the time. The first few times it happened I went in and had x-rays - everything looked clear (no collapses, etc.) so it was attributed to "inflammation in the lining of the lungs," AKA Pleurisy, just as thefrogprincess said. I usually take motrin, but since you can't take anti-inflammitories (and if the pain is really bothering you a lot), I'd suggest vicodin or something along those lines. Note though, that vicodin can sometimes have a cough-supressing effect on some people so it's not always a good choice for us CFers - depends on the person I'm told. Also, if it's really concerning you, you might want to get checked out just for peace of mind. Keep us posted on how you're feeling...
 

Wheezie

New member
I get pains like what you've described all the time. The first few times it happened I went in and had x-rays - everything looked clear (no collapses, etc.) so it was attributed to "inflammation in the lining of the lungs," AKA Pleurisy, just as thefrogprincess said. I usually take motrin, but since you can't take anti-inflammitories (and if the pain is really bothering you a lot), I'd suggest vicodin or something along those lines. Note though, that vicodin can sometimes have a cough-supressing effect on some people so it's not always a good choice for us CFers - depends on the person I'm told. Also, if it's really concerning you, you might want to get checked out just for peace of mind. Keep us posted on how you're feeling...
 
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