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Proactive Tune Ups

Giggles

New member
I have started over the last several years to do proactive tune ups in the fall to gear up for winter. I use to wait till I was Super sick to go into the hospital but I know have found doing it when I am not on "death's door" so to speak is easier on my body and easier to get better. Does anyone else do this or what are your thoughts on it? My tune up is coming up in October and I am not looking forward to it cause they are putting me on antibiotics that I am allergic to, since all other drugs I am showing resistance. Maybe this time around I will actually really feel better and feel it was worth it. Still not looking forward to ICU unit etc.

Jennifer 36 years old with CF and CFRD
 

Giggles

New member
I have started over the last several years to do proactive tune ups in the fall to gear up for winter. I use to wait till I was Super sick to go into the hospital but I know have found doing it when I am not on "death's door" so to speak is easier on my body and easier to get better. Does anyone else do this or what are your thoughts on it? My tune up is coming up in October and I am not looking forward to it cause they are putting me on antibiotics that I am allergic to, since all other drugs I am showing resistance. Maybe this time around I will actually really feel better and feel it was worth it. Still not looking forward to ICU unit etc.

Jennifer 36 years old with CF and CFRD
 

Giggles

New member
I have started over the last several years to do proactive tune ups in the fall to gear up for winter. I use to wait till I was Super sick to go into the hospital but I know have found doing it when I am not on "death's door" so to speak is easier on my body and easier to get better. Does anyone else do this or what are your thoughts on it? My tune up is coming up in October and I am not looking forward to it cause they are putting me on antibiotics that I am allergic to, since all other drugs I am showing resistance. Maybe this time around I will actually really feel better and feel it was worth it. Still not looking forward to ICU unit etc.

Jennifer 36 years old with CF and CFRD
 

Giggles

New member
I have started over the last several years to do proactive tune ups in the fall to gear up for winter. I use to wait till I was Super sick to go into the hospital but I know have found doing it when I am not on "death's door" so to speak is easier on my body and easier to get better. Does anyone else do this or what are your thoughts on it? My tune up is coming up in October and I am not looking forward to it cause they are putting me on antibiotics that I am allergic to, since all other drugs I am showing resistance. Maybe this time around I will actually really feel better and feel it was worth it. Still not looking forward to ICU unit etc.

Jennifer 36 years old with CF and CFRD
 

Giggles

New member
I have started over the last several years to do proactive tune ups in the fall to gear up for winter. I use to wait till I was Super sick to go into the hospital but I know have found doing it when I am not on "death's door" so to speak is easier on my body and easier to get better. Does anyone else do this or what are your thoughts on it? My tune up is coming up in October and I am not looking forward to it cause they are putting me on antibiotics that I am allergic to, since all other drugs I am showing resistance. Maybe this time around I will actually really feel better and feel it was worth it. Still not looking forward to ICU unit etc.
<br />
<br />Jennifer 36 years old with CF and CFRD
 

Nightwriter

New member
Jennifer,

I can really empathize with you. It is always so hard to decide how to treat this disease. And considering the variation of treatment by everyone on this site -- there's no one standard. Which makes it all maddening.

I can say I've tried lots of strategies when it comes to antibiotics. Taking them all the time. Taking them when probably needed. Or not taking them until I was at "death's door." But in the end, for me, the more antibiotics I took, the more resistant I became. And when I was taking Tobi as a prophylactic, I'd ask the doctor if I was robbing Peter to pay Paul and he said not to worry about it. Right...

Sure, I was warding off a possible illness in the present, but where would the antibiotic be when I needed it. I became resistant to almost everything.

For me, even with all the drugs, I was ending up on IV antibiotics more often. I knew I had to do something. I tried just about everything. But eventually what helped me...

I found a doctor who did not think antibiotics were always necessary. A doctor that thought that most of these exacerbations (I cultured pseudomonas, staph, etc.) were do to inflamation not just the bugs. Control the inflamation. Open the airways that trap the bugs. Treat the asthma component of CF. Stop the exacerbations. No more antibiotics constantly. And so --I began to be on antibiotics less and less.

I've been treating my CF like this for the past 11 years. Lyfestyle changes. Reducing inflamation. Controlling asthma. Instead of continual antibiotics, only occasional inhaled antibiotics and oral antibiotics. The last 2 years I've taken no antibiotics at all (I've also been the most compliant and added hypertonic saline and NAC and Tumeric).

The doctor slowly proved to me by treating inflamation and the asthma component ( most CFer's DO have asthma) -- with appropriate meds, me cleaning up the air around me, avoiding triggers, taking supplements -- that I would have fewer exacerbations. Cultures improved. CT scans improved. Antibiotic sensitivity returned. I stopped feelingl sick every day of my life, regained some of a steadily declining lung function, and returned to my old life and career which virtually disappeared. The more I did, the better I felt.

Am I perfect? No. So many years of lung damage. Will I ever be on IV meds again? Could certainly happen. But by not being on drugs all the time, at least I have them to use.

Do I get sick? If I expose myself to bad air -- Yes. I get an exacerbation within a day or two (which I now know is chemical bronchitis -- which can turn into an infection if I'm not dilligent with treatments that the doctor recommends) Recently, I stupidly knowingly exposed myself to a few things including smoke and coughed up blood for a week.

You may very well need IV antibiotics at this time. That's something for you and your doctors to decide. Certainly antibiotic saved my life on many occasions. For me, I am always concerned about keeping the bugs sensitive, so that when I need them, they will work for me.
 

Nightwriter

New member
Jennifer,

I can really empathize with you. It is always so hard to decide how to treat this disease. And considering the variation of treatment by everyone on this site -- there's no one standard. Which makes it all maddening.

I can say I've tried lots of strategies when it comes to antibiotics. Taking them all the time. Taking them when probably needed. Or not taking them until I was at "death's door." But in the end, for me, the more antibiotics I took, the more resistant I became. And when I was taking Tobi as a prophylactic, I'd ask the doctor if I was robbing Peter to pay Paul and he said not to worry about it. Right...

Sure, I was warding off a possible illness in the present, but where would the antibiotic be when I needed it. I became resistant to almost everything.

For me, even with all the drugs, I was ending up on IV antibiotics more often. I knew I had to do something. I tried just about everything. But eventually what helped me...

I found a doctor who did not think antibiotics were always necessary. A doctor that thought that most of these exacerbations (I cultured pseudomonas, staph, etc.) were do to inflamation not just the bugs. Control the inflamation. Open the airways that trap the bugs. Treat the asthma component of CF. Stop the exacerbations. No more antibiotics constantly. And so --I began to be on antibiotics less and less.

I've been treating my CF like this for the past 11 years. Lyfestyle changes. Reducing inflamation. Controlling asthma. Instead of continual antibiotics, only occasional inhaled antibiotics and oral antibiotics. The last 2 years I've taken no antibiotics at all (I've also been the most compliant and added hypertonic saline and NAC and Tumeric).

The doctor slowly proved to me by treating inflamation and the asthma component ( most CFer's DO have asthma) -- with appropriate meds, me cleaning up the air around me, avoiding triggers, taking supplements -- that I would have fewer exacerbations. Cultures improved. CT scans improved. Antibiotic sensitivity returned. I stopped feelingl sick every day of my life, regained some of a steadily declining lung function, and returned to my old life and career which virtually disappeared. The more I did, the better I felt.

Am I perfect? No. So many years of lung damage. Will I ever be on IV meds again? Could certainly happen. But by not being on drugs all the time, at least I have them to use.

Do I get sick? If I expose myself to bad air -- Yes. I get an exacerbation within a day or two (which I now know is chemical bronchitis -- which can turn into an infection if I'm not dilligent with treatments that the doctor recommends) Recently, I stupidly knowingly exposed myself to a few things including smoke and coughed up blood for a week.

You may very well need IV antibiotics at this time. That's something for you and your doctors to decide. Certainly antibiotic saved my life on many occasions. For me, I am always concerned about keeping the bugs sensitive, so that when I need them, they will work for me.
 

Nightwriter

New member
Jennifer,

I can really empathize with you. It is always so hard to decide how to treat this disease. And considering the variation of treatment by everyone on this site -- there's no one standard. Which makes it all maddening.

I can say I've tried lots of strategies when it comes to antibiotics. Taking them all the time. Taking them when probably needed. Or not taking them until I was at "death's door." But in the end, for me, the more antibiotics I took, the more resistant I became. And when I was taking Tobi as a prophylactic, I'd ask the doctor if I was robbing Peter to pay Paul and he said not to worry about it. Right...

Sure, I was warding off a possible illness in the present, but where would the antibiotic be when I needed it. I became resistant to almost everything.

For me, even with all the drugs, I was ending up on IV antibiotics more often. I knew I had to do something. I tried just about everything. But eventually what helped me...

I found a doctor who did not think antibiotics were always necessary. A doctor that thought that most of these exacerbations (I cultured pseudomonas, staph, etc.) were do to inflamation not just the bugs. Control the inflamation. Open the airways that trap the bugs. Treat the asthma component of CF. Stop the exacerbations. No more antibiotics constantly. And so --I began to be on antibiotics less and less.

I've been treating my CF like this for the past 11 years. Lyfestyle changes. Reducing inflamation. Controlling asthma. Instead of continual antibiotics, only occasional inhaled antibiotics and oral antibiotics. The last 2 years I've taken no antibiotics at all (I've also been the most compliant and added hypertonic saline and NAC and Tumeric).

The doctor slowly proved to me by treating inflamation and the asthma component ( most CFer's DO have asthma) -- with appropriate meds, me cleaning up the air around me, avoiding triggers, taking supplements -- that I would have fewer exacerbations. Cultures improved. CT scans improved. Antibiotic sensitivity returned. I stopped feelingl sick every day of my life, regained some of a steadily declining lung function, and returned to my old life and career which virtually disappeared. The more I did, the better I felt.

Am I perfect? No. So many years of lung damage. Will I ever be on IV meds again? Could certainly happen. But by not being on drugs all the time, at least I have them to use.

Do I get sick? If I expose myself to bad air -- Yes. I get an exacerbation within a day or two (which I now know is chemical bronchitis -- which can turn into an infection if I'm not dilligent with treatments that the doctor recommends) Recently, I stupidly knowingly exposed myself to a few things including smoke and coughed up blood for a week.

You may very well need IV antibiotics at this time. That's something for you and your doctors to decide. Certainly antibiotic saved my life on many occasions. For me, I am always concerned about keeping the bugs sensitive, so that when I need them, they will work for me.
 

Nightwriter

New member
Jennifer,

I can really empathize with you. It is always so hard to decide how to treat this disease. And considering the variation of treatment by everyone on this site -- there's no one standard. Which makes it all maddening.

I can say I've tried lots of strategies when it comes to antibiotics. Taking them all the time. Taking them when probably needed. Or not taking them until I was at "death's door." But in the end, for me, the more antibiotics I took, the more resistant I became. And when I was taking Tobi as a prophylactic, I'd ask the doctor if I was robbing Peter to pay Paul and he said not to worry about it. Right...

Sure, I was warding off a possible illness in the present, but where would the antibiotic be when I needed it. I became resistant to almost everything.

For me, even with all the drugs, I was ending up on IV antibiotics more often. I knew I had to do something. I tried just about everything. But eventually what helped me...

I found a doctor who did not think antibiotics were always necessary. A doctor that thought that most of these exacerbations (I cultured pseudomonas, staph, etc.) were do to inflamation not just the bugs. Control the inflamation. Open the airways that trap the bugs. Treat the asthma component of CF. Stop the exacerbations. No more antibiotics constantly. And so --I began to be on antibiotics less and less.

I've been treating my CF like this for the past 11 years. Lyfestyle changes. Reducing inflamation. Controlling asthma. Instead of continual antibiotics, only occasional inhaled antibiotics and oral antibiotics. The last 2 years I've taken no antibiotics at all (I've also been the most compliant and added hypertonic saline and NAC and Tumeric).

The doctor slowly proved to me by treating inflamation and the asthma component ( most CFer's DO have asthma) -- with appropriate meds, me cleaning up the air around me, avoiding triggers, taking supplements -- that I would have fewer exacerbations. Cultures improved. CT scans improved. Antibiotic sensitivity returned. I stopped feelingl sick every day of my life, regained some of a steadily declining lung function, and returned to my old life and career which virtually disappeared. The more I did, the better I felt.

Am I perfect? No. So many years of lung damage. Will I ever be on IV meds again? Could certainly happen. But by not being on drugs all the time, at least I have them to use.

Do I get sick? If I expose myself to bad air -- Yes. I get an exacerbation within a day or two (which I now know is chemical bronchitis -- which can turn into an infection if I'm not dilligent with treatments that the doctor recommends) Recently, I stupidly knowingly exposed myself to a few things including smoke and coughed up blood for a week.

You may very well need IV antibiotics at this time. That's something for you and your doctors to decide. Certainly antibiotic saved my life on many occasions. For me, I am always concerned about keeping the bugs sensitive, so that when I need them, they will work for me.
 

Nightwriter

New member
Jennifer,
<br />
<br />I can really empathize with you. It is always so hard to decide how to treat this disease. And considering the variation of treatment by everyone on this site -- there's no one standard. Which makes it all maddening.
<br />
<br />I can say I've tried lots of strategies when it comes to antibiotics. Taking them all the time. Taking them when probably needed. Or not taking them until I was at "death's door." But in the end, for me, the more antibiotics I took, the more resistant I became. And when I was taking Tobi as a prophylactic, I'd ask the doctor if I was robbing Peter to pay Paul and he said not to worry about it. Right...
<br />
<br />Sure, I was warding off a possible illness in the present, but where would the antibiotic be when I needed it. I became resistant to almost everything.
<br />
<br />For me, even with all the drugs, I was ending up on IV antibiotics more often. I knew I had to do something. I tried just about everything. But eventually what helped me...
<br />
<br />I found a doctor who did not think antibiotics were always necessary. A doctor that thought that most of these exacerbations (I cultured pseudomonas, staph, etc.) were do to inflamation not just the bugs. Control the inflamation. Open the airways that trap the bugs. Treat the asthma component of CF. Stop the exacerbations. No more antibiotics constantly. And so --I began to be on antibiotics less and less.
<br />
<br />I've been treating my CF like this for the past 11 years. Lyfestyle changes. Reducing inflamation. Controlling asthma. Instead of continual antibiotics, only occasional inhaled antibiotics and oral antibiotics. The last 2 years I've taken no antibiotics at all (I've also been the most compliant and added hypertonic saline and NAC and Tumeric).
<br />
<br />The doctor slowly proved to me by treating inflamation and the asthma component ( most CFer's DO have asthma) -- with appropriate meds, me cleaning up the air around me, avoiding triggers, taking supplements -- that I would have fewer exacerbations. Cultures improved. CT scans improved. Antibiotic sensitivity returned. I stopped feelingl sick every day of my life, regained some of a steadily declining lung function, and returned to my old life and career which virtually disappeared. The more I did, the better I felt.
<br />
<br />Am I perfect? No. So many years of lung damage. Will I ever be on IV meds again? Could certainly happen. But by not being on drugs all the time, at least I have them to use.
<br />
<br />Do I get sick? If I expose myself to bad air -- Yes. I get an exacerbation within a day or two (which I now know is chemical bronchitis -- which can turn into an infection if I'm not dilligent with treatments that the doctor recommends) Recently, I stupidly knowingly exposed myself to a few things including smoke and coughed up blood for a week.
<br />
<br />You may very well need IV antibiotics at this time. That's something for you and your doctors to decide. Certainly antibiotic saved my life on many occasions. For me, I am always concerned about keeping the bugs sensitive, so that when I need them, they will work for me.
<br />
 

rcq925

New member
I am very interested to know what exactly your new doctor treated your asthma with. My doctor and I also believe that she has asthma as well as CF and inflammation is a serious issue for her. She has also done a lot of antibiotics, which I would like to reduce.

My daughter is 4. She takes Xopenex, Pulmozyme, Zyrtec, Singulair, Flovent, Zithromax and Nasonex, in addtion to vitamins, Creon 5.

I keep asking about Hypertonic Saline. Do you think there is anything else that has helped you or that I could ask our doctor about?

Thanks in advance!!
 

rcq925

New member
I am very interested to know what exactly your new doctor treated your asthma with. My doctor and I also believe that she has asthma as well as CF and inflammation is a serious issue for her. She has also done a lot of antibiotics, which I would like to reduce.

My daughter is 4. She takes Xopenex, Pulmozyme, Zyrtec, Singulair, Flovent, Zithromax and Nasonex, in addtion to vitamins, Creon 5.

I keep asking about Hypertonic Saline. Do you think there is anything else that has helped you or that I could ask our doctor about?

Thanks in advance!!
 

rcq925

New member
I am very interested to know what exactly your new doctor treated your asthma with. My doctor and I also believe that she has asthma as well as CF and inflammation is a serious issue for her. She has also done a lot of antibiotics, which I would like to reduce.

My daughter is 4. She takes Xopenex, Pulmozyme, Zyrtec, Singulair, Flovent, Zithromax and Nasonex, in addtion to vitamins, Creon 5.

I keep asking about Hypertonic Saline. Do you think there is anything else that has helped you or that I could ask our doctor about?

Thanks in advance!!
 

rcq925

New member
I am very interested to know what exactly your new doctor treated your asthma with. My doctor and I also believe that she has asthma as well as CF and inflammation is a serious issue for her. She has also done a lot of antibiotics, which I would like to reduce.

My daughter is 4. She takes Xopenex, Pulmozyme, Zyrtec, Singulair, Flovent, Zithromax and Nasonex, in addtion to vitamins, Creon 5.

I keep asking about Hypertonic Saline. Do you think there is anything else that has helped you or that I could ask our doctor about?

Thanks in advance!!
 

rcq925

New member
I am very interested to know what exactly your new doctor treated your asthma with. My doctor and I also believe that she has asthma as well as CF and inflammation is a serious issue for her. She has also done a lot of antibiotics, which I would like to reduce.
<br />
<br />My daughter is 4. She takes Xopenex, Pulmozyme, Zyrtec, Singulair, Flovent, Zithromax and Nasonex, in addtion to vitamins, Creon 5.
<br />
<br />I keep asking about Hypertonic Saline. Do you think there is anything else that has helped you or that I could ask our doctor about?
<br />
<br />Thanks in advance!!
 

Transplantmommy

New member
My docs had me on proactive tune ups before my transplants. No matter if I was sick or not I was on IV antibiotics for two weeks, off for one week, and then back on for two weeks. This was to keep infections away so I could have the transplant when I got the call. A lot of times if you have and active infection when you get the call, they will not transplant. Mine was all just precautionary and it worked well.
 

Transplantmommy

New member
My docs had me on proactive tune ups before my transplants. No matter if I was sick or not I was on IV antibiotics for two weeks, off for one week, and then back on for two weeks. This was to keep infections away so I could have the transplant when I got the call. A lot of times if you have and active infection when you get the call, they will not transplant. Mine was all just precautionary and it worked well.
 

Transplantmommy

New member
My docs had me on proactive tune ups before my transplants. No matter if I was sick or not I was on IV antibiotics for two weeks, off for one week, and then back on for two weeks. This was to keep infections away so I could have the transplant when I got the call. A lot of times if you have and active infection when you get the call, they will not transplant. Mine was all just precautionary and it worked well.
 

Transplantmommy

New member
My docs had me on proactive tune ups before my transplants. No matter if I was sick or not I was on IV antibiotics for two weeks, off for one week, and then back on for two weeks. This was to keep infections away so I could have the transplant when I got the call. A lot of times if you have and active infection when you get the call, they will not transplant. Mine was all just precautionary and it worked well.
 

Transplantmommy

New member
My docs had me on proactive tune ups before my transplants. No matter if I was sick or not I was on IV antibiotics for two weeks, off for one week, and then back on for two weeks. This was to keep infections away so I could have the transplant when I got the call. A lot of times if you have and active infection when you get the call, they will not transplant. Mine was all just precautionary and it worked well.
 
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