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biz

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so Aidan started pre-school today. YAH!!!! and believe it or not they dont have anyone certified to give him his enzymes for his snack which is all of 15 minutes long. he only goes 3 days a week from 9-12. i tried everyhting with this director. what if i put just two pills in his pill case and put that in his snack back and he opens the case and takes the pils all him self? NO! the reason cause if one of the kids reaches over real fast and grabs a pill and takes it or if he drops it and a kid picks it up and takes it. ugghhh veery frustrating. now i know what some of you are probably going to suggest is for me to go back to the school and give him the pills myself b4 his snack. but think about it. i take him there for school to start at 9. go home then turn around an hour later give him his pills. go back home. then an hour later go back and pick him up. what would you do? i might as well just keep him home i finally won the battle with hubby and got him in preschool so myself and Aidan can get a break from each other and he can learn and have fun 3 days a week.

so heres my question there are a limited few things i know he can have as a small snack without enzymes. but i was really hoping if ya'll knew of anything else i culd give him. i did put a call into his cf team for help also...thanx
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Elizabeth
mama to Aidan 4 w/CF
 
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biz

New member
so Aidan started pre-school today. YAH!!!! and believe it or not they dont have anyone certified to give him his enzymes for his snack which is all of 15 minutes long. he only goes 3 days a week from 9-12. i tried everyhting with this director. what if i put just two pills in his pill case and put that in his snack back and he opens the case and takes the pils all him self? NO! the reason cause if one of the kids reaches over real fast and grabs a pill and takes it or if he drops it and a kid picks it up and takes it. ugghhh veery frustrating. now i know what some of you are probably going to suggest is for me to go back to the school and give him the pills myself b4 his snack. but think about it. i take him there for school to start at 9. go home then turn around an hour later give him his pills. go back home. then an hour later go back and pick him up. what would you do? i might as well just keep him home i finally won the battle with hubby and got him in preschool so myself and Aidan can get a break from each other and he can learn and have fun 3 days a week.

so heres my question there are a limited few things i know he can have as a small snack without enzymes. but i was really hoping if ya'll knew of anything else i culd give him. i did put a call into his cf team for help also...thanx
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Elizabeth
mama to Aidan 4 w/CF
 
B

biz

New member
so Aidan started pre-school today. YAH!!!! and believe it or not they dont have anyone certified to give him his enzymes for his snack which is all of 15 minutes long. he only goes 3 days a week from 9-12. i tried everyhting with this director. what if i put just two pills in his pill case and put that in his snack back and he opens the case and takes the pils all him self? NO! the reason cause if one of the kids reaches over real fast and grabs a pill and takes it or if he drops it and a kid picks it up and takes it. ugghhh veery frustrating. now i know what some of you are probably going to suggest is for me to go back to the school and give him the pills myself b4 his snack. but think about it. i take him there for school to start at 9. go home then turn around an hour later give him his pills. go back home. then an hour later go back and pick him up. what would you do? i might as well just keep him home i finally won the battle with hubby and got him in preschool so myself and Aidan can get a break from each other and he can learn and have fun 3 days a week.
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<br />so heres my question there are a limited few things i know he can have as a small snack without enzymes. but i was really hoping if ya'll knew of anything else i culd give him. i did put a call into his cf team for help also...thanx
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<br />Elizabeth
<br />mama to Aidan 4 w/CF
 
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Ratatosk

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How pancreatic insufficient is he? DS is able to have pretzels and doesn't have issues because they don't contain fat. What about fruit snacks, fruit... What does the preschool do with other kids who need medicine?

Also, what time of program is it? If it's a state licensed early childhood program that receives funding for the food program, etc. it's my understanding they need to follow the same guidelines as other educational programs.

Even then, DS has always gone to a private daycare/preschool which is licensed by the state/county and they have certain requirements in terms of medications, disabilities.

A current health assessment or a health assessment statement completed is by parents, obtained at the time of initial enrollment of the child, that must indicate any special precautions for diet, medication, or activity, must serve as evidence that a child is physically able to take part in the child care program, and must be completed annually. In addition to that form, I had to provide a letter with instructions on how to give him his medication.

I also had to have the doctor send a letter when he was 13 months explaining that he needed extra calories and salt lest the social service licensing inspectors discover those types of things in their kitchen. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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Ratatosk

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Staff member
How pancreatic insufficient is he? DS is able to have pretzels and doesn't have issues because they don't contain fat. What about fruit snacks, fruit... What does the preschool do with other kids who need medicine?

Also, what time of program is it? If it's a state licensed early childhood program that receives funding for the food program, etc. it's my understanding they need to follow the same guidelines as other educational programs.

Even then, DS has always gone to a private daycare/preschool which is licensed by the state/county and they have certain requirements in terms of medications, disabilities.

A current health assessment or a health assessment statement completed is by parents, obtained at the time of initial enrollment of the child, that must indicate any special precautions for diet, medication, or activity, must serve as evidence that a child is physically able to take part in the child care program, and must be completed annually. In addition to that form, I had to provide a letter with instructions on how to give him his medication.

I also had to have the doctor send a letter when he was 13 months explaining that he needed extra calories and salt lest the social service licensing inspectors discover those types of things in their kitchen. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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Ratatosk

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Staff member
How pancreatic insufficient is he? DS is able to have pretzels and doesn't have issues because they don't contain fat. What about fruit snacks, fruit... What does the preschool do with other kids who need medicine?
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<br />Also, what time of program is it? If it's a state licensed early childhood program that receives funding for the food program, etc. it's my understanding they need to follow the same guidelines as other educational programs.
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<br />Even then, DS has always gone to a private daycare/preschool which is licensed by the state/county and they have certain requirements in terms of medications, disabilities.
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<br />A current health assessment or a health assessment statement completed is by parents, obtained at the time of initial enrollment of the child, that must indicate any special precautions for diet, medication, or activity, must serve as evidence that a child is physically able to take part in the child care program, and must be completed annually. In addition to that form, I had to provide a letter with instructions on how to give him his medication.
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<br />I also had to have the doctor send a letter when he was 13 months explaining that he needed extra calories and salt lest the social service licensing inspectors discover those types of things in their kitchen. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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ashmomo

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My daughter's teacher always just gave Ashlee her enzymes last year in preschool. Seems the teacher would not need to be certified to do it. We didn't even have to fill out any forms. Wish it could be that easy for you! School this year has been more forms and stuff for Kindergarten, but it is going well so far <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">)
 
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ashmomo

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My daughter's teacher always just gave Ashlee her enzymes last year in preschool. Seems the teacher would not need to be certified to do it. We didn't even have to fill out any forms. Wish it could be that easy for you! School this year has been more forms and stuff for Kindergarten, but it is going well so far <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">)
 
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ashmomo

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My daughter's teacher always just gave Ashlee her enzymes last year in preschool. Seems the teacher would not need to be certified to do it. We didn't even have to fill out any forms. Wish it could be that easy for you! School this year has been more forms and stuff for Kindergarten, but it is going well so far <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif" border="0">)
 
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Liza

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Seems to me that they are just being difficult. My youngest went to a private pre-school at age 4. I understand yours and your childs need for some seperation and pre-school is highly important for some kids. I knew we were going to have seperation issues, which is why I sent Rachel at 4,to prepare for kindergarten. Anyhow.... If you've talked to the teacher and she is unwilling to give your child the enzymes then you will just have to pick snacks that do not need them. If this is a 3yr old pre-school program please look into a different school for next year because they really are being unreasonable. In the meantime also speak with them about whether they allow "special" items, like birthday cupcakes or party food come halloween or holidays because this should not be allowed if they are not willing to work with you on this issue.

Snacks that do not need enzymes are items that do not contain fat or protein. My girls can eat pretzels, fresh fruit and when they ate it, applesauce and fruit cups. Best thing to do is just go to the grocer and look at all the packages of snacks your son likes. Read the serving size and fat content and protein content. My girls can handle a small amt. of fat and protein with no ill effects. Check out goldfish, pretzels, fruit roll ups and other types of jellied fruit snacks, check out the dried fruit too (we dont' buy them so I have no idea what their nutritional values are).

Hope these ideas work for you. Good luck and check out another school for next year and speak to the director first.
 
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Liza

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Seems to me that they are just being difficult. My youngest went to a private pre-school at age 4. I understand yours and your childs need for some seperation and pre-school is highly important for some kids. I knew we were going to have seperation issues, which is why I sent Rachel at 4,to prepare for kindergarten. Anyhow.... If you've talked to the teacher and she is unwilling to give your child the enzymes then you will just have to pick snacks that do not need them. If this is a 3yr old pre-school program please look into a different school for next year because they really are being unreasonable. In the meantime also speak with them about whether they allow "special" items, like birthday cupcakes or party food come halloween or holidays because this should not be allowed if they are not willing to work with you on this issue.

Snacks that do not need enzymes are items that do not contain fat or protein. My girls can eat pretzels, fresh fruit and when they ate it, applesauce and fruit cups. Best thing to do is just go to the grocer and look at all the packages of snacks your son likes. Read the serving size and fat content and protein content. My girls can handle a small amt. of fat and protein with no ill effects. Check out goldfish, pretzels, fruit roll ups and other types of jellied fruit snacks, check out the dried fruit too (we dont' buy them so I have no idea what their nutritional values are).

Hope these ideas work for you. Good luck and check out another school for next year and speak to the director first.
 
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Liza

New member
Seems to me that they are just being difficult. My youngest went to a private pre-school at age 4. I understand yours and your childs need for some seperation and pre-school is highly important for some kids. I knew we were going to have seperation issues, which is why I sent Rachel at 4,to prepare for kindergarten. Anyhow.... If you've talked to the teacher and she is unwilling to give your child the enzymes then you will just have to pick snacks that do not need them. If this is a 3yr old pre-school program please look into a different school for next year because they really are being unreasonable. In the meantime also speak with them about whether they allow "special" items, like birthday cupcakes or party food come halloween or holidays because this should not be allowed if they are not willing to work with you on this issue.
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<br />Snacks that do not need enzymes are items that do not contain fat or protein. My girls can eat pretzels, fresh fruit and when they ate it, applesauce and fruit cups. Best thing to do is just go to the grocer and look at all the packages of snacks your son likes. Read the serving size and fat content and protein content. My girls can handle a small amt. of fat and protein with no ill effects. Check out goldfish, pretzels, fruit roll ups and other types of jellied fruit snacks, check out the dried fruit too (we dont' buy them so I have no idea what their nutritional values are).
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<br />Hope these ideas work for you. Good luck and check out another school for next year and speak to the director first.
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Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
I agree they're being unreasonable and this has bothered me all afternoon. Would this be considered a violation of ADA requirements? I found this link and wonder if it pertains... There's a question about medications that I've copied below. <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ada.gov/childq%26a.htm
">http://www.ada.gov/childq%26a.htm
</a>
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14. Q: Our center has a policy that we will not give medication to any child. Can I refuse to give medication to a child with a disability?
A: No. In some circumstances, it may be necessary to give medication to a child with a disability in order to make a program accessible to that child. While some state laws may differ, generally speaking, as long as reasonable care is used in following the doctors' and parents' or guardians written instructions about administering medication, centers should not be held liable for any resulting problems. Providers, parents, and guardians are urged to consult professionals in their state whenever liability questions arise.
 
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Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
I agree they're being unreasonable and this has bothered me all afternoon. Would this be considered a violation of ADA requirements? I found this link and wonder if it pertains... There's a question about medications that I've copied below. <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ada.gov/childq%26a.htm
">http://www.ada.gov/childq%26a.htm
</a>
Personal Services


14. Q: Our center has a policy that we will not give medication to any child. Can I refuse to give medication to a child with a disability?
A: No. In some circumstances, it may be necessary to give medication to a child with a disability in order to make a program accessible to that child. While some state laws may differ, generally speaking, as long as reasonable care is used in following the doctors' and parents' or guardians written instructions about administering medication, centers should not be held liable for any resulting problems. Providers, parents, and guardians are urged to consult professionals in their state whenever liability questions arise.
 
R

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
I agree they're being unreasonable and this has bothered me all afternoon. Would this be considered a violation of ADA requirements? I found this link and wonder if it pertains... There's a question about medications that I've copied below. <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ada.gov/childq%26a.htm
">http://www.ada.gov/childq%26a.htm
</a><br />
<br />Personal Services
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<br />14. Q: Our center has a policy that we will not give medication to any child. Can I refuse to give medication to a child with a disability?
<br />A: No. In some circumstances, it may be necessary to give medication to a child with a disability in order to make a program accessible to that child. While some state laws may differ, generally speaking, as long as reasonable care is used in following the doctors' and parents' or guardians written instructions about administering medication, centers should not be held liable for any resulting problems. Providers, parents, and guardians are urged to consult professionals in their state whenever liability questions arise.
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biz

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thaxs for the replys you guys are great. ok the school is a church. so i guess thats why they get away with not having to have to have some one staffed for meds. i mean come on aidan can physically take the pills himself. i did tell her that when a parent brings in cupcakes for a birthday to let me know a head of time and i will bring him his enzymes because i do not want him left out on that.

you did give me some good suggestions on snacks that i forgot he could have thanks again.
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Elizabeth
 
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biz

New member
thaxs for the replys you guys are great. ok the school is a church. so i guess thats why they get away with not having to have to have some one staffed for meds. i mean come on aidan can physically take the pills himself. i did tell her that when a parent brings in cupcakes for a birthday to let me know a head of time and i will bring him his enzymes because i do not want him left out on that.

you did give me some good suggestions on snacks that i forgot he could have thanks again.
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Elizabeth
 
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biz

New member
thaxs for the replys you guys are great. ok the school is a church. so i guess thats why they get away with not having to have to have some one staffed for meds. i mean come on aidan can physically take the pills himself. i did tell her that when a parent brings in cupcakes for a birthday to let me know a head of time and i will bring him his enzymes because i do not want him left out on that.
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<br />you did give me some good suggestions on snacks that i forgot he could have thanks again.
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<br />Elizabeth
 
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hmw

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Just because it's in a church doesn't mean they shouldn't be held up to reasonable standards. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> Do they reject children with other health needs? Are they certified for safety and first aid?
 
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hmw

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Just because it's in a church doesn't mean they shouldn't be held up to reasonable standards. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> Do they reject children with other health needs? Are they certified for safety and first aid?
 
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