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Stem Cells research

Jane

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Solo

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That's promising. That's the thing I don't get about the stem cell controvery. If you think about it, a 3 day old human embryo contains something like 170 cells called a blastocyst. I think in the brain of an ant, there are more than 70,000 cells. Now the embryos that are discarded in stem cell research do not have any neurons, or brains at all, so there is absolutely no plausible reason to think that they will suffer at all. Now when a person dies, if they are an organ donor, we have no qualms about using his organs and burying the person in the ground then. IMO if it is considered "acceptable" to treat a human being's brain who has died like so, it is also acceptable to treat a simple blastocyst like so.
I don't get all the pro-lifer's arguments here, as I'm more than certain they picked their noses' at least a few times in their life. Every single cell that composes your body is a potential living person, so every time you pick your nose, you are literally murdering millions of "potential" human beings.
I think that every single member of Congress that voted against stem cell research, should be forced to sign a waiver stating that neither them nor any of their descendants will ever benefit from the potential treatments stem cells can create. I am willing to wager that in a few decades we will be ashamed of ourselves for lunging all this money into building arms that can kill thousands when at the same time people are suffering and dying when they might have been able to be saved if the money were diverted from building bombs into stem cells. Instead of using religious dogmatism as a shield, I think we need to embrace science and the new technologies, because these potentially can free us from disease.
 

Solo

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That's promising. That's the thing I don't get about the stem cell controvery. If you think about it, a 3 day old human embryo contains something like 170 cells called a blastocyst. I think in the brain of an ant, there are more than 70,000 cells. Now the embryos that are discarded in stem cell research do not have any neurons, or brains at all, so there is absolutely no plausible reason to think that they will suffer at all. Now when a person dies, if they are an organ donor, we have no qualms about using his organs and burying the person in the ground then. IMO if it is considered "acceptable" to treat a human being's brain who has died like so, it is also acceptable to treat a simple blastocyst like so.
I don't get all the pro-lifer's arguments here, as I'm more than certain they picked their noses' at least a few times in their life. Every single cell that composes your body is a potential living person, so every time you pick your nose, you are literally murdering millions of "potential" human beings.
I think that every single member of Congress that voted against stem cell research, should be forced to sign a waiver stating that neither them nor any of their descendants will ever benefit from the potential treatments stem cells can create. I am willing to wager that in a few decades we will be ashamed of ourselves for lunging all this money into building arms that can kill thousands when at the same time people are suffering and dying when they might have been able to be saved if the money were diverted from building bombs into stem cells. Instead of using religious dogmatism as a shield, I think we need to embrace science and the new technologies, because these potentially can free us from disease.
 

Solo

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That's promising. That's the thing I don't get about the stem cell controvery. If you think about it, a 3 day old human embryo contains something like 170 cells called a blastocyst. I think in the brain of an ant, there are more than 70,000 cells. Now the embryos that are discarded in stem cell research do not have any neurons, or brains at all, so there is absolutely no plausible reason to think that they will suffer at all. Now when a person dies, if they are an organ donor, we have no qualms about using his organs and burying the person in the ground then. IMO if it is considered "acceptable" to treat a human being's brain who has died like so, it is also acceptable to treat a simple blastocyst like so.
I don't get all the pro-lifer's arguments here, as I'm more than certain they picked their noses' at least a few times in their life. Every single cell that composes your body is a potential living person, so every time you pick your nose, you are literally murdering millions of "potential" human beings.
I think that every single member of Congress that voted against stem cell research, should be forced to sign a waiver stating that neither them nor any of their descendants will ever benefit from the potential treatments stem cells can create. I am willing to wager that in a few decades we will be ashamed of ourselves for lunging all this money into building arms that can kill thousands when at the same time people are suffering and dying when they might have been able to be saved if the money were diverted from building bombs into stem cells. Instead of using religious dogmatism as a shield, I think we need to embrace science and the new technologies, because these potentially can free us from disease.
 

Solo

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That's promising. That's the thing I don't get about the stem cell controvery. If you think about it, a 3 day old human embryo contains something like 170 cells called a blastocyst. I think in the brain of an ant, there are more than 70,000 cells. Now the embryos that are discarded in stem cell research do not have any neurons, or brains at all, so there is absolutely no plausible reason to think that they will suffer at all. Now when a person dies, if they are an organ donor, we have no qualms about using his organs and burying the person in the ground then. IMO if it is considered "acceptable" to treat a human being's brain who has died like so, it is also acceptable to treat a simple blastocyst like so.
I don't get all the pro-lifer's arguments here, as I'm more than certain they picked their noses' at least a few times in their life. Every single cell that composes your body is a potential living person, so every time you pick your nose, you are literally murdering millions of "potential" human beings.
I think that every single member of Congress that voted against stem cell research, should be forced to sign a waiver stating that neither them nor any of their descendants will ever benefit from the potential treatments stem cells can create. I am willing to wager that in a few decades we will be ashamed of ourselves for lunging all this money into building arms that can kill thousands when at the same time people are suffering and dying when they might have been able to be saved if the money were diverted from building bombs into stem cells. Instead of using religious dogmatism as a shield, I think we need to embrace science and the new technologies, because these potentially can free us from disease.
 

Solo

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That's promising. That's the thing I don't get about the stem cell controvery. If you think about it, a 3 day old human embryo contains something like 170 cells called a blastocyst. I think in the brain of an ant, there are more than 70,000 cells. Now the embryos that are discarded in stem cell research do not have any neurons, or brains at all, so there is absolutely no plausible reason to think that they will suffer at all. Now when a person dies, if they are an organ donor, we have no qualms about using his organs and burying the person in the ground then. IMO if it is considered "acceptable" to treat a human being's brain who has died like so, it is also acceptable to treat a simple blastocyst like so.
<br />I don't get all the pro-lifer's arguments here, as I'm more than certain they picked their noses' at least a few times in their life. Every single cell that composes your body is a potential living person, so every time you pick your nose, you are literally murdering millions of "potential" human beings.
<br />I think that every single member of Congress that voted against stem cell research, should be forced to sign a waiver stating that neither them nor any of their descendants will ever benefit from the potential treatments stem cells can create. I am willing to wager that in a few decades we will be ashamed of ourselves for lunging all this money into building arms that can kill thousands when at the same time people are suffering and dying when they might have been able to be saved if the money were diverted from building bombs into stem cells. Instead of using religious dogmatism as a shield, I think we need to embrace science and the new technologies, because these potentially can free us from disease.
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kitomd21

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Shane - your post was well-stated, however, the argument against embryonic stem cell research isn't whether or not "it" feels pain. The argument is whether or not life begins at conception. The organ donor comparison fails as we aren't killing the donor to get their brain, or whatever other organ. As you may be well aware, umbilical cord blood stem cells are another avenue for stem cell research. They are just as totipotent (ability to turn into any other cell) as an embryonic cell. Instead of arguing for embryonic stem cell research, let's argue for umbilical cord blood stem cell research. No ethical issues there...

Signed,
One of those pro-lifers
 

kitomd21

New member
Shane - your post was well-stated, however, the argument against embryonic stem cell research isn't whether or not "it" feels pain. The argument is whether or not life begins at conception. The organ donor comparison fails as we aren't killing the donor to get their brain, or whatever other organ. As you may be well aware, umbilical cord blood stem cells are another avenue for stem cell research. They are just as totipotent (ability to turn into any other cell) as an embryonic cell. Instead of arguing for embryonic stem cell research, let's argue for umbilical cord blood stem cell research. No ethical issues there...

Signed,
One of those pro-lifers
 

kitomd21

New member
Shane - your post was well-stated, however, the argument against embryonic stem cell research isn't whether or not "it" feels pain. The argument is whether or not life begins at conception. The organ donor comparison fails as we aren't killing the donor to get their brain, or whatever other organ. As you may be well aware, umbilical cord blood stem cells are another avenue for stem cell research. They are just as totipotent (ability to turn into any other cell) as an embryonic cell. Instead of arguing for embryonic stem cell research, let's argue for umbilical cord blood stem cell research. No ethical issues there...

Signed,
One of those pro-lifers
 

kitomd21

New member
Shane - your post was well-stated, however, the argument against embryonic stem cell research isn't whether or not "it" feels pain. The argument is whether or not life begins at conception. The organ donor comparison fails as we aren't killing the donor to get their brain, or whatever other organ. As you may be well aware, umbilical cord blood stem cells are another avenue for stem cell research. They are just as totipotent (ability to turn into any other cell) as an embryonic cell. Instead of arguing for embryonic stem cell research, let's argue for umbilical cord blood stem cell research. No ethical issues there...

Signed,
One of those pro-lifers
 

kitomd21

New member
Shane - your post was well-stated, however, the argument against embryonic stem cell research isn't whether or not "it" feels pain. The argument is whether or not life begins at conception. The organ donor comparison fails as we aren't killing the donor to get their brain, or whatever other organ. As you may be well aware, umbilical cord blood stem cells are another avenue for stem cell research. They are just as totipotent (ability to turn into any other cell) as an embryonic cell. Instead of arguing for embryonic stem cell research, let's argue for umbilical cord blood stem cell research. No ethical issues there...
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<br />Signed,
<br />One of those pro-lifers
 
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