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Through the Eyes of a Patient

lightNlife

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Blake</b></i>

It's not a matter of can and cannot, it's a matter of will or will not. Age doesn't matter, I learned this at a very young age.

I don't see where I was rude? She asked for advice, and got it. Maybe if people don't want to hear certain things, they should say "I need advice, but only the advice I want to hear" and then explain what they'd like you type so that we can know.

I also, for the most part, respond to people the way they themselves communicate. It's a habit from working with a lot of people on my day to day basis, if someone communicates softly, I usually do not get overbearing with them, etc. Jennifer has spoken to me in ways I will never forget, so I am communicating with her on her level. If you can't take it, don't dish it.</end quote></div>


Good point, Blake. A lot of people on here like to throw out the "you don't know what I've been through to get me here" card and it's annoying. I saw nothing wrong with your response. I too would have trashed the newsletter. I put a lot of things in the round file that aren't well written or are penned with the martyr attitude.

As far as the victim thing, being a victim is not just a one-time event. When a person continues to claim hardship or trouble because of a single incident of victimization, they they are what is referred to as a perpetual victim.

Many CFers do that. CF is the initial victimizing event (as though having CF actually sought us out to harm us...lol) and everything difficult that happens that is CF related serves as perpetual victimization. People who really have, as they believe, come through so much, forget that when you come through something you don't look back on it and keep remembering how lousy it was.
 

Emily65Roses

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I just had to say I love the "round file" reference to the trash can. I've never heard it called that before and it made me chuckle. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

Emily65Roses

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I just had to say I love the "round file" reference to the trash can. I've never heard it called that before and it made me chuckle. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

Emily65Roses

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I just had to say I love the "round file" reference to the trash can. I've never heard it called that before and it made me chuckle. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

Seana30

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blake and light

you are getting off the point of the post. jennifer asked us to help her find a way to write a letter that shows the side of the patient. help her........stop hindering

seana
 

Seana30

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blake and light

you are getting off the point of the post. jennifer asked us to help her find a way to write a letter that shows the side of the patient. help her........stop hindering

seana
 

Seana30

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blake and light

you are getting off the point of the post. jennifer asked us to help her find a way to write a letter that shows the side of the patient. help her........stop hindering

seana
 

JennifersHope

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Hey Blake, I don't really ever remember any specific conversation I have had with you ever. If I hurt you or I was rude to you, which apparently I must have been I really apologize. I don't know you, and I don't want to be rude to anyone ever, it really isn't my style.

I think in my response to you that it was very evident that I was open to what you were saying, just that I didn't appreciate your rudeness.. In the future I will post more specifically not to respond rudely, I didn't know that it was needed, most ppl I know have common decency. I don't care if you agree with me or not, but I do care about rudeness, as evidenced by your signature, Blake you are not very sensitive as a person.

I am not sure if your rude comments are meant to hurt me, but they don't actually..Especially since PROFESSIONALS with degress along the same lines as me have found my information useful....I don't see how they are constructive, but if that is your idea of constructive.. KEEP IT...Don't bother to respond to any of my posts.. Because like I said I don't care if you agree with me, disagree with me, but I do very much care about rudeness...I said two or three times in my post, I need help, I Have an idea and I know this is raw..

I am really sick and tired of the rudeness from some people on here and I am tired of being quiet about it. I am grateful for the knowledge and support I get. I actually used to care very much who liked me or not but some people on here I wouldn't like myself if they liked me so I guess I am happy.

I asked for help in an idea I had, not to be treated rudely. Like I said, you said I spoke to you in a way that you will never forget, that I am interested in, because like I said, I do care about being rude.

Emily, I didn't think I implied that they should keep the patient company, I can not keep my patient company, I am to busy, BUt I can and do keep my patient informed and updated, and when possible if a patient is by themself and scared, I will sit in the room with them and chart.

I am done with this thread.. I really appreciate the support and different ideas I got. again I don't care if you agree with me, but rudeness sucks.
 

JennifersHope

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Hey Blake, I don't really ever remember any specific conversation I have had with you ever. If I hurt you or I was rude to you, which apparently I must have been I really apologize. I don't know you, and I don't want to be rude to anyone ever, it really isn't my style.

I think in my response to you that it was very evident that I was open to what you were saying, just that I didn't appreciate your rudeness.. In the future I will post more specifically not to respond rudely, I didn't know that it was needed, most ppl I know have common decency. I don't care if you agree with me or not, but I do care about rudeness, as evidenced by your signature, Blake you are not very sensitive as a person.

I am not sure if your rude comments are meant to hurt me, but they don't actually..Especially since PROFESSIONALS with degress along the same lines as me have found my information useful....I don't see how they are constructive, but if that is your idea of constructive.. KEEP IT...Don't bother to respond to any of my posts.. Because like I said I don't care if you agree with me, disagree with me, but I do very much care about rudeness...I said two or three times in my post, I need help, I Have an idea and I know this is raw..

I am really sick and tired of the rudeness from some people on here and I am tired of being quiet about it. I am grateful for the knowledge and support I get. I actually used to care very much who liked me or not but some people on here I wouldn't like myself if they liked me so I guess I am happy.

I asked for help in an idea I had, not to be treated rudely. Like I said, you said I spoke to you in a way that you will never forget, that I am interested in, because like I said, I do care about being rude.

Emily, I didn't think I implied that they should keep the patient company, I can not keep my patient company, I am to busy, BUt I can and do keep my patient informed and updated, and when possible if a patient is by themself and scared, I will sit in the room with them and chart.

I am done with this thread.. I really appreciate the support and different ideas I got. again I don't care if you agree with me, but rudeness sucks.
 

JennifersHope

New member
Hey Blake, I don't really ever remember any specific conversation I have had with you ever. If I hurt you or I was rude to you, which apparently I must have been I really apologize. I don't know you, and I don't want to be rude to anyone ever, it really isn't my style.

I think in my response to you that it was very evident that I was open to what you were saying, just that I didn't appreciate your rudeness.. In the future I will post more specifically not to respond rudely, I didn't know that it was needed, most ppl I know have common decency. I don't care if you agree with me or not, but I do care about rudeness, as evidenced by your signature, Blake you are not very sensitive as a person.

I am not sure if your rude comments are meant to hurt me, but they don't actually..Especially since PROFESSIONALS with degress along the same lines as me have found my information useful....I don't see how they are constructive, but if that is your idea of constructive.. KEEP IT...Don't bother to respond to any of my posts.. Because like I said I don't care if you agree with me, disagree with me, but I do very much care about rudeness...I said two or three times in my post, I need help, I Have an idea and I know this is raw..

I am really sick and tired of the rudeness from some people on here and I am tired of being quiet about it. I am grateful for the knowledge and support I get. I actually used to care very much who liked me or not but some people on here I wouldn't like myself if they liked me so I guess I am happy.

I asked for help in an idea I had, not to be treated rudely. Like I said, you said I spoke to you in a way that you will never forget, that I am interested in, because like I said, I do care about being rude.

Emily, I didn't think I implied that they should keep the patient company, I can not keep my patient company, I am to busy, BUt I can and do keep my patient informed and updated, and when possible if a patient is by themself and scared, I will sit in the room with them and chart.

I am done with this thread.. I really appreciate the support and different ideas I got. again I don't care if you agree with me, but rudeness sucks.
 

Emily65Roses

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I had remembered you said something about being lonely, but when I just looked back, it wasn't there. So nevermind me. I did want to reply to Seana though. I don't think she was talking directly to me (?) but I don't want her to think I'm saying emotions should be ignored. They're just not number one priority when in an ER.
 

Emily65Roses

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I had remembered you said something about being lonely, but when I just looked back, it wasn't there. So nevermind me. I did want to reply to Seana though. I don't think she was talking directly to me (?) but I don't want her to think I'm saying emotions should be ignored. They're just not number one priority when in an ER.
 

Emily65Roses

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I had remembered you said something about being lonely, but when I just looked back, it wasn't there. So nevermind me. I did want to reply to Seana though. I don't think she was talking directly to me (?) but I don't want her to think I'm saying emotions should be ignored. They're just not number one priority when in an ER.
 

Lilith

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>JennifersHope</b></i>

In the future I will post more specifically not to respond rudely, I didn't know that it was needed, most ppl I know have common decency.</end quote></div><br/>

Apparently, Jennifer, "common decency" isn't so common. If people have to be told what is rude and what isn't, that's rather pathetic. Ignore them. There are better things to do with your time. I think what you're doing is great. Don't let a few bad eggs ruin it for you.
 

Lilith

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>JennifersHope</b></i>

In the future I will post more specifically not to respond rudely, I didn't know that it was needed, most ppl I know have common decency.</end quote></div><br/>

Apparently, Jennifer, "common decency" isn't so common. If people have to be told what is rude and what isn't, that's rather pathetic. Ignore them. There are better things to do with your time. I think what you're doing is great. Don't let a few bad eggs ruin it for you.
 

Lilith

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>JennifersHope</b></i>

In the future I will post more specifically not to respond rudely, I didn't know that it was needed, most ppl I know have common decency.</end quote></div><br/>

Apparently, Jennifer, "common decency" isn't so common. If people have to be told what is rude and what isn't, that's rather pathetic. Ignore them. There are better things to do with your time. I think what you're doing is great. Don't let a few bad eggs ruin it for you.
 

JennifersHope

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Thank you lisa ( lilith) and to everyone else.. who posted and PMed me.. I really didn't intend for this post to turn into a conflict.. it was an idea I had to get some help with a project.. nothing more.. nothing less..

I really appreciate it..It is nice to see and comforting to me that some people see where I was coming from.. I can't figure out why the few people were responding to me the way they were. I was trying to do something to help all of us get better health care. Granted I can't please everyone but man.. I was really bothered by it.

I am oversensitve and care to much what others think.. thankfully, not as much as I used to.

I can't remember being rude to anyone, really, a while back I had a disagreement with someone about something, but, that was it. as far as I can remember.

When posts like this turn a little icky, part of me wants to run away... because I can't stand conflict, especially because I was just trying to do something good...

I get to much support here to do that, but sometimes it is tempting..

Thanks again...
 

JennifersHope

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Thank you lisa ( lilith) and to everyone else.. who posted and PMed me.. I really didn't intend for this post to turn into a conflict.. it was an idea I had to get some help with a project.. nothing more.. nothing less..

I really appreciate it..It is nice to see and comforting to me that some people see where I was coming from.. I can't figure out why the few people were responding to me the way they were. I was trying to do something to help all of us get better health care. Granted I can't please everyone but man.. I was really bothered by it.

I am oversensitve and care to much what others think.. thankfully, not as much as I used to.

I can't remember being rude to anyone, really, a while back I had a disagreement with someone about something, but, that was it. as far as I can remember.

When posts like this turn a little icky, part of me wants to run away... because I can't stand conflict, especially because I was just trying to do something good...

I get to much support here to do that, but sometimes it is tempting..

Thanks again...
 

JennifersHope

New member
Thank you lisa ( lilith) and to everyone else.. who posted and PMed me.. I really didn't intend for this post to turn into a conflict.. it was an idea I had to get some help with a project.. nothing more.. nothing less..

I really appreciate it..It is nice to see and comforting to me that some people see where I was coming from.. I can't figure out why the few people were responding to me the way they were. I was trying to do something to help all of us get better health care. Granted I can't please everyone but man.. I was really bothered by it.

I am oversensitve and care to much what others think.. thankfully, not as much as I used to.

I can't remember being rude to anyone, really, a while back I had a disagreement with someone about something, but, that was it. as far as I can remember.

When posts like this turn a little icky, part of me wants to run away... because I can't stand conflict, especially because I was just trying to do something good...

I get to much support here to do that, but sometimes it is tempting..

Thanks again...
 

Seana30

New member
Emily,

I agree with you. Emotions should not be the number one priority. If someone comes in the ER having a heart attack of course you have to take care of the problem first.

My point is....when I was in the medical field I was appalled at how many healthcare workers take all emotions out of the picture. I knew when I went out on a call such as a car accident and we had 4 or 5 patients critically injured that was the time to put my emotions aside and do my job. If I was transporting a young child from one hospital to the other, although I had to monitor the childs condition, that was the time to be sensitive and thoughtful. It is amazing though to see how many of my partners were insensitive and down right mean and uncaring.

The biggest problem for me as an EMT was learning to set the emotions aside. One of the hardest things for me was triage at a accident scene. You literally had to go to each patient, dead or alive, and "tag them" which meant you decided whether it was worth an attempt to save them. If you felt the person was to injured to help you literally put a color coded tag on them and move on to the next person.

There is a time and place for emotions in the hospital setting........my point was I feel a lot of healthcare workers have taken all emotion out of it.

Okay.....I babbling now.....lol.

Again Jennifer.......I think it is wonderful what you are doing and would love to hear your finished paper!

Seana
 
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