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Will Hospitals be more careful if they can't bill for mistakes?

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LisaV

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Just read this one

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...8MXg1b4ekKs0NUE
">"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080218/ap_on_he_me/healthbeat_hospital_errors;_ylt=AhL6V2ifJS8WH8MXg1b4ekKs0NUE
<br ">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...1b4ekKs0NUE
</a></a>

Do you think that means hospitals will get better at infection control?

Or will they just be less willing to identify and treat? (Goodness, I can be the pessimist)

Edited to add another link since the original stopped working
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/280334.html">http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/280334.html</a>
 
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LisaV

New member
Just read this one

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...8MXg1b4ekKs0NUE
">"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080218/ap_on_he_me/healthbeat_hospital_errors;_ylt=AhL6V2ifJS8WH8MXg1b4ekKs0NUE
<br ">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...1b4ekKs0NUE
</a></a>

Do you think that means hospitals will get better at infection control?

Or will they just be less willing to identify and treat? (Goodness, I can be the pessimist)

Edited to add another link since the original stopped working
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/280334.html">http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/280334.html</a>
 
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LisaV

New member
Just read this one

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...8MXg1b4ekKs0NUE
">"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080218/ap_on_he_me/healthbeat_hospital_errors;_ylt=AhL6V2ifJS8WH8MXg1b4ekKs0NUE
<br ">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...1b4ekKs0NUE
</a></a>

Do you think that means hospitals will get better at infection control?

Or will they just be less willing to identify and treat? (Goodness, I can be the pessimist)

Edited to add another link since the original stopped working
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/280334.html">http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/280334.html</a>
 
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LisaV

New member
Just read this one

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...8MXg1b4ekKs0NUE
">"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080218/ap_on_he_me/healthbeat_hospital_errors;_ylt=AhL6V2ifJS8WH8MXg1b4ekKs0NUE
<br ">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...1b4ekKs0NUE
</a></a>

Do you think that means hospitals will get better at infection control?

Or will they just be less willing to identify and treat? (Goodness, I can be the pessimist)

Edited to add another link since the original stopped working
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/280334.html">http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/280334.html</a>
 
L

LisaV

New member
Just read this one

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...8MXg1b4ekKs0NUE
">"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080218/ap_on_he_me/healthbeat_hospital_errors;_ylt=AhL6V2ifJS8WH8MXg1b4ekKs0NUE
<br ">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...1b4ekKs0NUE
</a></a>

Do you think that means hospitals will get better at infection control?

Or will they just be less willing to identify and treat? (Goodness, I can be the pessimist)

Edited to add another link since the original stopped working
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/280334.html">http://www.sanluisobispo.com/health/story/280334.html</a>
 
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NoExcuses

New member
They'll admit less patients who are likely to get nosocomial infections. So that will make it more difficult for the most vulnerable among us to get care.

Government regulations always have crazy unintended consequences.

Hopefully i'm wrong and hospitals will start to be more careful regarding washing hands/ cross-contamination.
 
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NoExcuses

New member
They'll admit less patients who are likely to get nosocomial infections. So that will make it more difficult for the most vulnerable among us to get care.

Government regulations always have crazy unintended consequences.

Hopefully i'm wrong and hospitals will start to be more careful regarding washing hands/ cross-contamination.
 
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NoExcuses

New member
They'll admit less patients who are likely to get nosocomial infections. So that will make it more difficult for the most vulnerable among us to get care.

Government regulations always have crazy unintended consequences.

Hopefully i'm wrong and hospitals will start to be more careful regarding washing hands/ cross-contamination.
 
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NoExcuses

New member
They'll admit less patients who are likely to get nosocomial infections. So that will make it more difficult for the most vulnerable among us to get care.

Government regulations always have crazy unintended consequences.

Hopefully i'm wrong and hospitals will start to be more careful regarding washing hands/ cross-contamination.
 
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NoExcuses

New member
They'll admit less patients who are likely to get nosocomial infections. So that will make it more difficult for the most vulnerable among us to get care.

Government regulations always have crazy unintended consequences.

Hopefully i'm wrong and hospitals will start to be more careful regarding washing hands/ cross-contamination.
 
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Wheezie

New member
I'm not really sure hospitals can pick and choose who they admit. It's possible that a private facility might have that jurisdiction, but those facilities aren't likely to accept Medicare or Medicaid anyway. And if your idea of a patient that is "likely to get nosocomial infections" is someone who is elderly or disabled, it is similarly likely that those patients would not have private insurance and thus, would be less likely to receive treatment from a private facility. Therefore, the argument that hospitals are less likely to admit those patients whom they deem to be more susceptible to nosocomial infections is flawed. I think the original poster's fear is more likely, but even then, refusal to identify and treat could lead to serious lawsuits, which hospitals are quick to avoid. However, along those same lines, patients who are unable to advocate for themselves and are without family advocacy could be taken advantage of via the failure to identify and treat theory; this sort of thing is already happening in nursing homes and has been for years.

Will these new Medicare rules motivate hospitals to improve infection control? While that does seem to be the intent of the rule(s), only time will tell.
 
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Wheezie

New member
I'm not really sure hospitals can pick and choose who they admit. It's possible that a private facility might have that jurisdiction, but those facilities aren't likely to accept Medicare or Medicaid anyway. And if your idea of a patient that is "likely to get nosocomial infections" is someone who is elderly or disabled, it is similarly likely that those patients would not have private insurance and thus, would be less likely to receive treatment from a private facility. Therefore, the argument that hospitals are less likely to admit those patients whom they deem to be more susceptible to nosocomial infections is flawed. I think the original poster's fear is more likely, but even then, refusal to identify and treat could lead to serious lawsuits, which hospitals are quick to avoid. However, along those same lines, patients who are unable to advocate for themselves and are without family advocacy could be taken advantage of via the failure to identify and treat theory; this sort of thing is already happening in nursing homes and has been for years.

Will these new Medicare rules motivate hospitals to improve infection control? While that does seem to be the intent of the rule(s), only time will tell.
 
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Wheezie

New member
I'm not really sure hospitals can pick and choose who they admit. It's possible that a private facility might have that jurisdiction, but those facilities aren't likely to accept Medicare or Medicaid anyway. And if your idea of a patient that is "likely to get nosocomial infections" is someone who is elderly or disabled, it is similarly likely that those patients would not have private insurance and thus, would be less likely to receive treatment from a private facility. Therefore, the argument that hospitals are less likely to admit those patients whom they deem to be more susceptible to nosocomial infections is flawed. I think the original poster's fear is more likely, but even then, refusal to identify and treat could lead to serious lawsuits, which hospitals are quick to avoid. However, along those same lines, patients who are unable to advocate for themselves and are without family advocacy could be taken advantage of via the failure to identify and treat theory; this sort of thing is already happening in nursing homes and has been for years.

Will these new Medicare rules motivate hospitals to improve infection control? While that does seem to be the intent of the rule(s), only time will tell.
 
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Wheezie

New member
I'm not really sure hospitals can pick and choose who they admit. It's possible that a private facility might have that jurisdiction, but those facilities aren't likely to accept Medicare or Medicaid anyway. And if your idea of a patient that is "likely to get nosocomial infections" is someone who is elderly or disabled, it is similarly likely that those patients would not have private insurance and thus, would be less likely to receive treatment from a private facility. Therefore, the argument that hospitals are less likely to admit those patients whom they deem to be more susceptible to nosocomial infections is flawed. I think the original poster's fear is more likely, but even then, refusal to identify and treat could lead to serious lawsuits, which hospitals are quick to avoid. However, along those same lines, patients who are unable to advocate for themselves and are without family advocacy could be taken advantage of via the failure to identify and treat theory; this sort of thing is already happening in nursing homes and has been for years.

Will these new Medicare rules motivate hospitals to improve infection control? While that does seem to be the intent of the rule(s), only time will tell.
 
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Wheezie

New member
I'm not really sure hospitals can pick and choose who they admit. It's possible that a private facility might have that jurisdiction, but those facilities aren't likely to accept Medicare or Medicaid anyway. And if your idea of a patient that is "likely to get nosocomial infections" is someone who is elderly or disabled, it is similarly likely that those patients would not have private insurance and thus, would be less likely to receive treatment from a private facility. Therefore, the argument that hospitals are less likely to admit those patients whom they deem to be more susceptible to nosocomial infections is flawed. I think the original poster's fear is more likely, but even then, refusal to identify and treat could lead to serious lawsuits, which hospitals are quick to avoid. However, along those same lines, patients who are unable to advocate for themselves and are without family advocacy could be taken advantage of via the failure to identify and treat theory; this sort of thing is already happening in nursing homes and has been for years.

Will these new Medicare rules motivate hospitals to improve infection control? While that does seem to be the intent of the rule(s), only time will tell.
 
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NoExcuses

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oh hospitals absolutely can pick and chose who they admit, are you kidding? just because people show up they have to admit them? oh nooooooo. that's not the case at all. unless it's a hospital attached to an ER, then they have to accept everyone. but hospitals without ER's can chose whomever they would like.

and many private hospitals accept medicare because it pays so well. i think you're misinformed with regards to who accepts medicare and medicaid.
 
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NoExcuses

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oh hospitals absolutely can pick and chose who they admit, are you kidding? just because people show up they have to admit them? oh nooooooo. that's not the case at all. unless it's a hospital attached to an ER, then they have to accept everyone. but hospitals without ER's can chose whomever they would like.

and many private hospitals accept medicare because it pays so well. i think you're misinformed with regards to who accepts medicare and medicaid.
 
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NoExcuses

New member
oh hospitals absolutely can pick and chose who they admit, are you kidding? just because people show up they have to admit them? oh nooooooo. that's not the case at all. unless it's a hospital attached to an ER, then they have to accept everyone. but hospitals without ER's can chose whomever they would like.

and many private hospitals accept medicare because it pays so well. i think you're misinformed with regards to who accepts medicare and medicaid.
 
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NoExcuses

New member
oh hospitals absolutely can pick and chose who they admit, are you kidding? just because people show up they have to admit them? oh nooooooo. that's not the case at all. unless it's a hospital attached to an ER, then they have to accept everyone. but hospitals without ER's can chose whomever they would like.

and many private hospitals accept medicare because it pays so well. i think you're misinformed with regards to who accepts medicare and medicaid.
 
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NoExcuses

New member
oh hospitals absolutely can pick and chose who they admit, are you kidding? just because people show up they have to admit them? oh nooooooo. that's not the case at all. unless it's a hospital attached to an ER, then they have to accept everyone. but hospitals without ER's can chose whomever they would like.

and many private hospitals accept medicare because it pays so well. i think you're misinformed with regards to who accepts medicare and medicaid.
 
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