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ABPA

Havoc

New member
Lily,

ABPA is a relatively new thing in the asthma/CF world. Not many studies have been conducted and unfortunately not all the docs are as familiar with it as they should be.

I completely understand your concerns about prednisone and they are well founded. Having said that, you may be left with no choice but to at least start a course of steroids until you can try an alternate therapy. An IgE of 500 is relatively high and as Mom2lillian mentioned Xolair is not indicated for IgE levels over 1000 (even over 700 is pushing the upper limits). It also may not be covered by your insurance, or your doc may not want to Rx it for ABPA treatment, as it is primarily used to treat asthma.

So, in short, you may have to start an oral steroid to preserve your lung function and keep your IgE manageable until you can research and discuss with your doc alternative therapies. Hopefully, you can minimize the amount of time you are on them. I will caution you if your IgE is 500 and you are seeing a drop in your FEV1, don't mess around, get some kind of treatment started.
 

Havoc

New member
Lily,

ABPA is a relatively new thing in the asthma/CF world. Not many studies have been conducted and unfortunately not all the docs are as familiar with it as they should be.

I completely understand your concerns about prednisone and they are well founded. Having said that, you may be left with no choice but to at least start a course of steroids until you can try an alternate therapy. An IgE of 500 is relatively high and as Mom2lillian mentioned Xolair is not indicated for IgE levels over 1000 (even over 700 is pushing the upper limits). It also may not be covered by your insurance, or your doc may not want to Rx it for ABPA treatment, as it is primarily used to treat asthma.

So, in short, you may have to start an oral steroid to preserve your lung function and keep your IgE manageable until you can research and discuss with your doc alternative therapies. Hopefully, you can minimize the amount of time you are on them. I will caution you if your IgE is 500 and you are seeing a drop in your FEV1, don't mess around, get some kind of treatment started.
 

Havoc

New member
Lily,

ABPA is a relatively new thing in the asthma/CF world. Not many studies have been conducted and unfortunately not all the docs are as familiar with it as they should be.

I completely understand your concerns about prednisone and they are well founded. Having said that, you may be left with no choice but to at least start a course of steroids until you can try an alternate therapy. An IgE of 500 is relatively high and as Mom2lillian mentioned Xolair is not indicated for IgE levels over 1000 (even over 700 is pushing the upper limits). It also may not be covered by your insurance, or your doc may not want to Rx it for ABPA treatment, as it is primarily used to treat asthma.

So, in short, you may have to start an oral steroid to preserve your lung function and keep your IgE manageable until you can research and discuss with your doc alternative therapies. Hopefully, you can minimize the amount of time you are on them. I will caution you if your IgE is 500 and you are seeing a drop in your FEV1, don't mess around, get some kind of treatment started.
 

Havoc

New member
Lily,

ABPA is a relatively new thing in the asthma/CF world. Not many studies have been conducted and unfortunately not all the docs are as familiar with it as they should be.

I completely understand your concerns about prednisone and they are well founded. Having said that, you may be left with no choice but to at least start a course of steroids until you can try an alternate therapy. An IgE of 500 is relatively high and as Mom2lillian mentioned Xolair is not indicated for IgE levels over 1000 (even over 700 is pushing the upper limits). It also may not be covered by your insurance, or your doc may not want to Rx it for ABPA treatment, as it is primarily used to treat asthma.

So, in short, you may have to start an oral steroid to preserve your lung function and keep your IgE manageable until you can research and discuss with your doc alternative therapies. Hopefully, you can minimize the amount of time you are on them. I will caution you if your IgE is 500 and you are seeing a drop in your FEV1, don't mess around, get some kind of treatment started.
 

Havoc

New member
Lily,
<br />
<br />ABPA is a relatively new thing in the asthma/CF world. Not many studies have been conducted and unfortunately not all the docs are as familiar with it as they should be.
<br />
<br />I completely understand your concerns about prednisone and they are well founded. Having said that, you may be left with no choice but to at least start a course of steroids until you can try an alternate therapy. An IgE of 500 is relatively high and as Mom2lillian mentioned Xolair is not indicated for IgE levels over 1000 (even over 700 is pushing the upper limits). It also may not be covered by your insurance, or your doc may not want to Rx it for ABPA treatment, as it is primarily used to treat asthma.
<br />
<br />So, in short, you may have to start an oral steroid to preserve your lung function and keep your IgE manageable until you can research and discuss with your doc alternative therapies. Hopefully, you can minimize the amount of time you are on them. I will caution you if your IgE is 500 and you are seeing a drop in your FEV1, don't mess around, get some kind of treatment started.
 

dramamama

New member
Hi Guys-
Just thought I would throw these two studies into the conversation. One done in US and another in China both showing that allergic lung disease is most likley created by depression of immune system by antibiotics which kills gut bacteria and leads to a imbalance in gut flora. At this time, if exposed to an allergen (such as Aspergillus) the immune response is tilted toward Th2 (the one involved in APBA). Most researchers (if they are worth their salt) are starting to believe the "hygiene hypothesis" which points towards antibiotic usage as the reason for the high rate of allergic lung disease. Many also are proving that probiotics can help control the deleterious effects of antibiotic usage. In fact, researchers now see that certain gut bacteria regulates gamma interferon (one of the most important chemicals in Th1 immune response-the one we want) CFers benefit from L. Rhamnosus species which is shown to increase Gamma interferon and decrease inflammation in cf gut. The whole point of my post is to say that if you have ABPA, L. Rhamnosus is a good probiotic to take to help ease allergic symptoms due to ABPA.


Role of antibiotics and fungal microbiota in driving pulmonary allergic responses.

Noverr MC, Noggle RM, Toews GB, Huffnagle GB.
Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, University of Michigan Medical School, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0642, USA.
Over the past four decades, there has been a significant increase in allergy and asthma in westernized countries, which correlates with alterations in fecal microbiota (microflora) and widespread use of antibiotics (the "hygiene hypothesis"). Antibiotics also lead to overgrowth of the yeast Candida albicans, which can secrete potent prostaglandin-like immune response modulators. We have developed a mouse model of antibiotic-induced microbiota disruption that includes stable increases in gastrointestinal (GI) enteric bacteria and GI Candida levels with no introduction of microbes into the lungs. Mice are treated for 5 days with cefoperazone in the drinking water, followed by a single oral gavage of C. albicans. This results in alterations of GI bacterial populations and increased yeast numbers in the GI microbiota for at least 2 to 3 weeks and can drive the development of a CD4 T-cell-mediated allergic airway response to subsequent mold spore (Aspergillus fumigatus) exposure in immunocompetent mice without previous systemic antigen priming. The allergic response in the lungs is characterized by increased levels of eosinophils, mast cells, interleukin-5 (IL-5), IL-13, gamma interferon, immunoglobulin E, and mucus-secreting cells. In the absence of antibiotics, mice exposed to Aspergillus spores do not develop an allergic response in the airways. <b>This study provides the first experimental evidence to support a role for antibiotics and fungal microbiota in promoting the development of allergic airway disease. In addition, these studies also highlight the concept that events in distal mucosal sites such as the GI tract can play an important role in regulating immune responses in the lungs.</b>

Zhonghua Er Ke Za Zhi. 2007 Jun;45(6):450-4.Links
[Allergic airway response associated with the intestinal microflora disruption induced by antibiotic therapy]

[Article in Chinese]

Liu CH, Yang XQ, Liu CH, He Y, Wang LJ.
Department of Immunology, Children's Hospital, Chongqing Medical University, Chongqing 400014, China.
OBJECTIVE: Over the past several decades, there has been a significant increase in allergy and asthma in the world, which correlates with alterations in microflora and widespread use of antibiotics. The authors have developed a mouse model of antibiotics-induced microbiota disruption. In that model, mice were challenged by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergens to explore the relation of allergic airway response and intestinal microflora disruption. METHODS: Sixty female BALB/c mice were divided at random into 6 groups with 10 mice in each. (1) First antibiotic therapy group: the mice were given oral cefoperazone for 7 days, on day 7, mice were inoculated with Candida albicans (10(9)/ml, 50 microl) orally. (2) First control group: the mice were treated as first antibiotic therapy group, but cefoperazone and Candida albicans were replaced by saline. The mice in groups (1) and (2) were sacrificed on day 8, and cecal contents were collected for quantitative analysis of the intestinal bacterial flora. (3) Antibiotic therapy and challenge group: the mice were treated as the first antibiotic therapy group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen. (4) Second antibiotic therapy group: the mice were treated as the first antibiotic therapy group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to saline. (5) Challenge group: the mice were treated as the first control group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen. (6) Second control group: the mice were treated as the first control group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to saline. The mice in (3) - (6) group were killed for analysis of allergic airway response on day 19. RESULTS: The quantity of Enterobacteriaceae, Enterococcus, Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus in first antibiotic therapy group was significantly lower than that in the first control group, the quantity of Candida albicans increased in the first antibiotic therapy group as compared with the first control group. Mice intestinal microflora were disrupted with weight reduction and increased moisture in feces. After challenging with Aspergillus fumigatus allergens via intranasal inhalation, the total cell count, eosinophils, lymphocytes and neutrophils increased in BALF, especially in bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BALF) from the mice in antibiotic therapy and challenge groups. IL-4 level in BALF from antibiotic therapy and challenge group (45.35 +/- 2.36) pg/ml was higher than that in the second control group (35.32 +/- 2.53) pg/ml. The expression of GATA-3 mRNA in the mice lung tissue (0.569 +/- 0.023) was higher than that in the second control group (0.410 +/- 0.020), and the ratios of T-bet/GATA-3 (0.578 +/- 0.021) decreased as compared with that in the second control group (0.804 +/- 0.035). IFN-gamma level in BALF from any group was not significantly different. In the absence of antibiotics, mice exposed to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen did not develop an allergic response in the airways. <b>CONCLUSIONS: The allergic (Th2) immune response can be induced by airway challenge with Aspergillus fumigatus allergen in the mice in which the intestinal microflora disruption resulted from antibiotic therapy, this result suggests that the intestinal microflora disruption resulted from antibiotic therapy is a risk factor for allergy and asthma.
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dramamama

New member
Hi Guys-
Just thought I would throw these two studies into the conversation. One done in US and another in China both showing that allergic lung disease is most likley created by depression of immune system by antibiotics which kills gut bacteria and leads to a imbalance in gut flora. At this time, if exposed to an allergen (such as Aspergillus) the immune response is tilted toward Th2 (the one involved in APBA). Most researchers (if they are worth their salt) are starting to believe the "hygiene hypothesis" which points towards antibiotic usage as the reason for the high rate of allergic lung disease. Many also are proving that probiotics can help control the deleterious effects of antibiotic usage. In fact, researchers now see that certain gut bacteria regulates gamma interferon (one of the most important chemicals in Th1 immune response-the one we want) CFers benefit from L. Rhamnosus species which is shown to increase Gamma interferon and decrease inflammation in cf gut. The whole point of my post is to say that if you have ABPA, L. Rhamnosus is a good probiotic to take to help ease allergic symptoms due to ABPA.


Role of antibiotics and fungal microbiota in driving pulmonary allergic responses.

Noverr MC, Noggle RM, Toews GB, Huffnagle GB.
Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, University of Michigan Medical School, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0642, USA.
Over the past four decades, there has been a significant increase in allergy and asthma in westernized countries, which correlates with alterations in fecal microbiota (microflora) and widespread use of antibiotics (the "hygiene hypothesis"). Antibiotics also lead to overgrowth of the yeast Candida albicans, which can secrete potent prostaglandin-like immune response modulators. We have developed a mouse model of antibiotic-induced microbiota disruption that includes stable increases in gastrointestinal (GI) enteric bacteria and GI Candida levels with no introduction of microbes into the lungs. Mice are treated for 5 days with cefoperazone in the drinking water, followed by a single oral gavage of C. albicans. This results in alterations of GI bacterial populations and increased yeast numbers in the GI microbiota for at least 2 to 3 weeks and can drive the development of a CD4 T-cell-mediated allergic airway response to subsequent mold spore (Aspergillus fumigatus) exposure in immunocompetent mice without previous systemic antigen priming. The allergic response in the lungs is characterized by increased levels of eosinophils, mast cells, interleukin-5 (IL-5), IL-13, gamma interferon, immunoglobulin E, and mucus-secreting cells. In the absence of antibiotics, mice exposed to Aspergillus spores do not develop an allergic response in the airways. <b>This study provides the first experimental evidence to support a role for antibiotics and fungal microbiota in promoting the development of allergic airway disease. In addition, these studies also highlight the concept that events in distal mucosal sites such as the GI tract can play an important role in regulating immune responses in the lungs.</b>

Zhonghua Er Ke Za Zhi. 2007 Jun;45(6):450-4.Links
[Allergic airway response associated with the intestinal microflora disruption induced by antibiotic therapy]

[Article in Chinese]

Liu CH, Yang XQ, Liu CH, He Y, Wang LJ.
Department of Immunology, Children's Hospital, Chongqing Medical University, Chongqing 400014, China.
OBJECTIVE: Over the past several decades, there has been a significant increase in allergy and asthma in the world, which correlates with alterations in microflora and widespread use of antibiotics. The authors have developed a mouse model of antibiotics-induced microbiota disruption. In that model, mice were challenged by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergens to explore the relation of allergic airway response and intestinal microflora disruption. METHODS: Sixty female BALB/c mice were divided at random into 6 groups with 10 mice in each. (1) First antibiotic therapy group: the mice were given oral cefoperazone for 7 days, on day 7, mice were inoculated with Candida albicans (10(9)/ml, 50 microl) orally. (2) First control group: the mice were treated as first antibiotic therapy group, but cefoperazone and Candida albicans were replaced by saline. The mice in groups (1) and (2) were sacrificed on day 8, and cecal contents were collected for quantitative analysis of the intestinal bacterial flora. (3) Antibiotic therapy and challenge group: the mice were treated as the first antibiotic therapy group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen. (4) Second antibiotic therapy group: the mice were treated as the first antibiotic therapy group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to saline. (5) Challenge group: the mice were treated as the first control group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen. (6) Second control group: the mice were treated as the first control group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to saline. The mice in (3) - (6) group were killed for analysis of allergic airway response on day 19. RESULTS: The quantity of Enterobacteriaceae, Enterococcus, Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus in first antibiotic therapy group was significantly lower than that in the first control group, the quantity of Candida albicans increased in the first antibiotic therapy group as compared with the first control group. Mice intestinal microflora were disrupted with weight reduction and increased moisture in feces. After challenging with Aspergillus fumigatus allergens via intranasal inhalation, the total cell count, eosinophils, lymphocytes and neutrophils increased in BALF, especially in bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BALF) from the mice in antibiotic therapy and challenge groups. IL-4 level in BALF from antibiotic therapy and challenge group (45.35 +/- 2.36) pg/ml was higher than that in the second control group (35.32 +/- 2.53) pg/ml. The expression of GATA-3 mRNA in the mice lung tissue (0.569 +/- 0.023) was higher than that in the second control group (0.410 +/- 0.020), and the ratios of T-bet/GATA-3 (0.578 +/- 0.021) decreased as compared with that in the second control group (0.804 +/- 0.035). IFN-gamma level in BALF from any group was not significantly different. In the absence of antibiotics, mice exposed to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen did not develop an allergic response in the airways. <b>CONCLUSIONS: The allergic (Th2) immune response can be induced by airway challenge with Aspergillus fumigatus allergen in the mice in which the intestinal microflora disruption resulted from antibiotic therapy, this result suggests that the intestinal microflora disruption resulted from antibiotic therapy is a risk factor for allergy and asthma.
</b>
 

dramamama

New member
Hi Guys-
Just thought I would throw these two studies into the conversation. One done in US and another in China both showing that allergic lung disease is most likley created by depression of immune system by antibiotics which kills gut bacteria and leads to a imbalance in gut flora. At this time, if exposed to an allergen (such as Aspergillus) the immune response is tilted toward Th2 (the one involved in APBA). Most researchers (if they are worth their salt) are starting to believe the "hygiene hypothesis" which points towards antibiotic usage as the reason for the high rate of allergic lung disease. Many also are proving that probiotics can help control the deleterious effects of antibiotic usage. In fact, researchers now see that certain gut bacteria regulates gamma interferon (one of the most important chemicals in Th1 immune response-the one we want) CFers benefit from L. Rhamnosus species which is shown to increase Gamma interferon and decrease inflammation in cf gut. The whole point of my post is to say that if you have ABPA, L. Rhamnosus is a good probiotic to take to help ease allergic symptoms due to ABPA.


Role of antibiotics and fungal microbiota in driving pulmonary allergic responses.

Noverr MC, Noggle RM, Toews GB, Huffnagle GB.
Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, University of Michigan Medical School, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0642, USA.
Over the past four decades, there has been a significant increase in allergy and asthma in westernized countries, which correlates with alterations in fecal microbiota (microflora) and widespread use of antibiotics (the "hygiene hypothesis"). Antibiotics also lead to overgrowth of the yeast Candida albicans, which can secrete potent prostaglandin-like immune response modulators. We have developed a mouse model of antibiotic-induced microbiota disruption that includes stable increases in gastrointestinal (GI) enteric bacteria and GI Candida levels with no introduction of microbes into the lungs. Mice are treated for 5 days with cefoperazone in the drinking water, followed by a single oral gavage of C. albicans. This results in alterations of GI bacterial populations and increased yeast numbers in the GI microbiota for at least 2 to 3 weeks and can drive the development of a CD4 T-cell-mediated allergic airway response to subsequent mold spore (Aspergillus fumigatus) exposure in immunocompetent mice without previous systemic antigen priming. The allergic response in the lungs is characterized by increased levels of eosinophils, mast cells, interleukin-5 (IL-5), IL-13, gamma interferon, immunoglobulin E, and mucus-secreting cells. In the absence of antibiotics, mice exposed to Aspergillus spores do not develop an allergic response in the airways. <b>This study provides the first experimental evidence to support a role for antibiotics and fungal microbiota in promoting the development of allergic airway disease. In addition, these studies also highlight the concept that events in distal mucosal sites such as the GI tract can play an important role in regulating immune responses in the lungs.</b>

Zhonghua Er Ke Za Zhi. 2007 Jun;45(6):450-4.Links
[Allergic airway response associated with the intestinal microflora disruption induced by antibiotic therapy]

[Article in Chinese]

Liu CH, Yang XQ, Liu CH, He Y, Wang LJ.
Department of Immunology, Children's Hospital, Chongqing Medical University, Chongqing 400014, China.
OBJECTIVE: Over the past several decades, there has been a significant increase in allergy and asthma in the world, which correlates with alterations in microflora and widespread use of antibiotics. The authors have developed a mouse model of antibiotics-induced microbiota disruption. In that model, mice were challenged by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergens to explore the relation of allergic airway response and intestinal microflora disruption. METHODS: Sixty female BALB/c mice were divided at random into 6 groups with 10 mice in each. (1) First antibiotic therapy group: the mice were given oral cefoperazone for 7 days, on day 7, mice were inoculated with Candida albicans (10(9)/ml, 50 microl) orally. (2) First control group: the mice were treated as first antibiotic therapy group, but cefoperazone and Candida albicans were replaced by saline. The mice in groups (1) and (2) were sacrificed on day 8, and cecal contents were collected for quantitative analysis of the intestinal bacterial flora. (3) Antibiotic therapy and challenge group: the mice were treated as the first antibiotic therapy group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen. (4) Second antibiotic therapy group: the mice were treated as the first antibiotic therapy group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to saline. (5) Challenge group: the mice were treated as the first control group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen. (6) Second control group: the mice were treated as the first control group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to saline. The mice in (3) - (6) group were killed for analysis of allergic airway response on day 19. RESULTS: The quantity of Enterobacteriaceae, Enterococcus, Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus in first antibiotic therapy group was significantly lower than that in the first control group, the quantity of Candida albicans increased in the first antibiotic therapy group as compared with the first control group. Mice intestinal microflora were disrupted with weight reduction and increased moisture in feces. After challenging with Aspergillus fumigatus allergens via intranasal inhalation, the total cell count, eosinophils, lymphocytes and neutrophils increased in BALF, especially in bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BALF) from the mice in antibiotic therapy and challenge groups. IL-4 level in BALF from antibiotic therapy and challenge group (45.35 +/- 2.36) pg/ml was higher than that in the second control group (35.32 +/- 2.53) pg/ml. The expression of GATA-3 mRNA in the mice lung tissue (0.569 +/- 0.023) was higher than that in the second control group (0.410 +/- 0.020), and the ratios of T-bet/GATA-3 (0.578 +/- 0.021) decreased as compared with that in the second control group (0.804 +/- 0.035). IFN-gamma level in BALF from any group was not significantly different. In the absence of antibiotics, mice exposed to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen did not develop an allergic response in the airways. <b>CONCLUSIONS: The allergic (Th2) immune response can be induced by airway challenge with Aspergillus fumigatus allergen in the mice in which the intestinal microflora disruption resulted from antibiotic therapy, this result suggests that the intestinal microflora disruption resulted from antibiotic therapy is a risk factor for allergy and asthma.
</b>
 

dramamama

New member
Hi Guys-
Just thought I would throw these two studies into the conversation. One done in US and another in China both showing that allergic lung disease is most likley created by depression of immune system by antibiotics which kills gut bacteria and leads to a imbalance in gut flora. At this time, if exposed to an allergen (such as Aspergillus) the immune response is tilted toward Th2 (the one involved in APBA). Most researchers (if they are worth their salt) are starting to believe the "hygiene hypothesis" which points towards antibiotic usage as the reason for the high rate of allergic lung disease. Many also are proving that probiotics can help control the deleterious effects of antibiotic usage. In fact, researchers now see that certain gut bacteria regulates gamma interferon (one of the most important chemicals in Th1 immune response-the one we want) CFers benefit from L. Rhamnosus species which is shown to increase Gamma interferon and decrease inflammation in cf gut. The whole point of my post is to say that if you have ABPA, L. Rhamnosus is a good probiotic to take to help ease allergic symptoms due to ABPA.


Role of antibiotics and fungal microbiota in driving pulmonary allergic responses.

Noverr MC, Noggle RM, Toews GB, Huffnagle GB.
Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, University of Michigan Medical School, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0642, USA.
Over the past four decades, there has been a significant increase in allergy and asthma in westernized countries, which correlates with alterations in fecal microbiota (microflora) and widespread use of antibiotics (the "hygiene hypothesis"). Antibiotics also lead to overgrowth of the yeast Candida albicans, which can secrete potent prostaglandin-like immune response modulators. We have developed a mouse model of antibiotic-induced microbiota disruption that includes stable increases in gastrointestinal (GI) enteric bacteria and GI Candida levels with no introduction of microbes into the lungs. Mice are treated for 5 days with cefoperazone in the drinking water, followed by a single oral gavage of C. albicans. This results in alterations of GI bacterial populations and increased yeast numbers in the GI microbiota for at least 2 to 3 weeks and can drive the development of a CD4 T-cell-mediated allergic airway response to subsequent mold spore (Aspergillus fumigatus) exposure in immunocompetent mice without previous systemic antigen priming. The allergic response in the lungs is characterized by increased levels of eosinophils, mast cells, interleukin-5 (IL-5), IL-13, gamma interferon, immunoglobulin E, and mucus-secreting cells. In the absence of antibiotics, mice exposed to Aspergillus spores do not develop an allergic response in the airways. <b>This study provides the first experimental evidence to support a role for antibiotics and fungal microbiota in promoting the development of allergic airway disease. In addition, these studies also highlight the concept that events in distal mucosal sites such as the GI tract can play an important role in regulating immune responses in the lungs.</b>

Zhonghua Er Ke Za Zhi. 2007 Jun;45(6):450-4.Links
[Allergic airway response associated with the intestinal microflora disruption induced by antibiotic therapy]

[Article in Chinese]

Liu CH, Yang XQ, Liu CH, He Y, Wang LJ.
Department of Immunology, Children's Hospital, Chongqing Medical University, Chongqing 400014, China.
OBJECTIVE: Over the past several decades, there has been a significant increase in allergy and asthma in the world, which correlates with alterations in microflora and widespread use of antibiotics. The authors have developed a mouse model of antibiotics-induced microbiota disruption. In that model, mice were challenged by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergens to explore the relation of allergic airway response and intestinal microflora disruption. METHODS: Sixty female BALB/c mice were divided at random into 6 groups with 10 mice in each. (1) First antibiotic therapy group: the mice were given oral cefoperazone for 7 days, on day 7, mice were inoculated with Candida albicans (10(9)/ml, 50 microl) orally. (2) First control group: the mice were treated as first antibiotic therapy group, but cefoperazone and Candida albicans were replaced by saline. The mice in groups (1) and (2) were sacrificed on day 8, and cecal contents were collected for quantitative analysis of the intestinal bacterial flora. (3) Antibiotic therapy and challenge group: the mice were treated as the first antibiotic therapy group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen. (4) Second antibiotic therapy group: the mice were treated as the first antibiotic therapy group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to saline. (5) Challenge group: the mice were treated as the first control group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen. (6) Second control group: the mice were treated as the first control group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to saline. The mice in (3) - (6) group were killed for analysis of allergic airway response on day 19. RESULTS: The quantity of Enterobacteriaceae, Enterococcus, Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus in first antibiotic therapy group was significantly lower than that in the first control group, the quantity of Candida albicans increased in the first antibiotic therapy group as compared with the first control group. Mice intestinal microflora were disrupted with weight reduction and increased moisture in feces. After challenging with Aspergillus fumigatus allergens via intranasal inhalation, the total cell count, eosinophils, lymphocytes and neutrophils increased in BALF, especially in bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BALF) from the mice in antibiotic therapy and challenge groups. IL-4 level in BALF from antibiotic therapy and challenge group (45.35 +/- 2.36) pg/ml was higher than that in the second control group (35.32 +/- 2.53) pg/ml. The expression of GATA-3 mRNA in the mice lung tissue (0.569 +/- 0.023) was higher than that in the second control group (0.410 +/- 0.020), and the ratios of T-bet/GATA-3 (0.578 +/- 0.021) decreased as compared with that in the second control group (0.804 +/- 0.035). IFN-gamma level in BALF from any group was not significantly different. In the absence of antibiotics, mice exposed to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen did not develop an allergic response in the airways. <b>CONCLUSIONS: The allergic (Th2) immune response can be induced by airway challenge with Aspergillus fumigatus allergen in the mice in which the intestinal microflora disruption resulted from antibiotic therapy, this result suggests that the intestinal microflora disruption resulted from antibiotic therapy is a risk factor for allergy and asthma.
</b>
 

dramamama

New member
Hi Guys-
<br />Just thought I would throw these two studies into the conversation. One done in US and another in China both showing that allergic lung disease is most likley created by depression of immune system by antibiotics which kills gut bacteria and leads to a imbalance in gut flora. At this time, if exposed to an allergen (such as Aspergillus) the immune response is tilted toward Th2 (the one involved in APBA). Most researchers (if they are worth their salt) are starting to believe the "hygiene hypothesis" which points towards antibiotic usage as the reason for the high rate of allergic lung disease. Many also are proving that probiotics can help control the deleterious effects of antibiotic usage. In fact, researchers now see that certain gut bacteria regulates gamma interferon (one of the most important chemicals in Th1 immune response-the one we want) CFers benefit from L. Rhamnosus species which is shown to increase Gamma interferon and decrease inflammation in cf gut. The whole point of my post is to say that if you have ABPA, L. Rhamnosus is a good probiotic to take to help ease allergic symptoms due to ABPA.
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<br />Role of antibiotics and fungal microbiota in driving pulmonary allergic responses.
<br />
<br />Noverr MC, Noggle RM, Toews GB, Huffnagle GB.
<br />Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Department of Internal Medicine, University of Michigan Medical School, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0642, USA.
<br />Over the past four decades, there has been a significant increase in allergy and asthma in westernized countries, which correlates with alterations in fecal microbiota (microflora) and widespread use of antibiotics (the "hygiene hypothesis"). Antibiotics also lead to overgrowth of the yeast Candida albicans, which can secrete potent prostaglandin-like immune response modulators. We have developed a mouse model of antibiotic-induced microbiota disruption that includes stable increases in gastrointestinal (GI) enteric bacteria and GI Candida levels with no introduction of microbes into the lungs. Mice are treated for 5 days with cefoperazone in the drinking water, followed by a single oral gavage of C. albicans. This results in alterations of GI bacterial populations and increased yeast numbers in the GI microbiota for at least 2 to 3 weeks and can drive the development of a CD4 T-cell-mediated allergic airway response to subsequent mold spore (Aspergillus fumigatus) exposure in immunocompetent mice without previous systemic antigen priming. The allergic response in the lungs is characterized by increased levels of eosinophils, mast cells, interleukin-5 (IL-5), IL-13, gamma interferon, immunoglobulin E, and mucus-secreting cells. In the absence of antibiotics, mice exposed to Aspergillus spores do not develop an allergic response in the airways. <b>This study provides the first experimental evidence to support a role for antibiotics and fungal microbiota in promoting the development of allergic airway disease. In addition, these studies also highlight the concept that events in distal mucosal sites such as the GI tract can play an important role in regulating immune responses in the lungs.</b>
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<br />Zhonghua Er Ke Za Zhi. 2007 Jun;45(6):450-4.Links
<br />[Allergic airway response associated with the intestinal microflora disruption induced by antibiotic therapy]
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<br />[Article in Chinese]
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<br />Liu CH, Yang XQ, Liu CH, He Y, Wang LJ.
<br />Department of Immunology, Children's Hospital, Chongqing Medical University, Chongqing 400014, China.
<br />OBJECTIVE: Over the past several decades, there has been a significant increase in allergy and asthma in the world, which correlates with alterations in microflora and widespread use of antibiotics. The authors have developed a mouse model of antibiotics-induced microbiota disruption. In that model, mice were challenged by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergens to explore the relation of allergic airway response and intestinal microflora disruption. METHODS: Sixty female BALB/c mice were divided at random into 6 groups with 10 mice in each. (1) First antibiotic therapy group: the mice were given oral cefoperazone for 7 days, on day 7, mice were inoculated with Candida albicans (10(9)/ml, 50 microl) orally. (2) First control group: the mice were treated as first antibiotic therapy group, but cefoperazone and Candida albicans were replaced by saline. The mice in groups (1) and (2) were sacrificed on day 8, and cecal contents were collected for quantitative analysis of the intestinal bacterial flora. (3) Antibiotic therapy and challenge group: the mice were treated as the first antibiotic therapy group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen. (4) Second antibiotic therapy group: the mice were treated as the first antibiotic therapy group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to saline. (5) Challenge group: the mice were treated as the first control group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen. (6) Second control group: the mice were treated as the first control group, then challenged (day 9 and 16) by intranasal exposure to saline. The mice in (3) - (6) group were killed for analysis of allergic airway response on day 19. RESULTS: The quantity of Enterobacteriaceae, Enterococcus, Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus in first antibiotic therapy group was significantly lower than that in the first control group, the quantity of Candida albicans increased in the first antibiotic therapy group as compared with the first control group. Mice intestinal microflora were disrupted with weight reduction and increased moisture in feces. After challenging with Aspergillus fumigatus allergens via intranasal inhalation, the total cell count, eosinophils, lymphocytes and neutrophils increased in BALF, especially in bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BALF) from the mice in antibiotic therapy and challenge groups. IL-4 level in BALF from antibiotic therapy and challenge group (45.35 +/- 2.36) pg/ml was higher than that in the second control group (35.32 +/- 2.53) pg/ml. The expression of GATA-3 mRNA in the mice lung tissue (0.569 +/- 0.023) was higher than that in the second control group (0.410 +/- 0.020), and the ratios of T-bet/GATA-3 (0.578 +/- 0.021) decreased as compared with that in the second control group (0.804 +/- 0.035). IFN-gamma level in BALF from any group was not significantly different. In the absence of antibiotics, mice exposed to Aspergillus fumigatus allergen did not develop an allergic response in the airways. <b>CONCLUSIONS: The allergic (Th2) immune response can be induced by airway challenge with Aspergillus fumigatus allergen in the mice in which the intestinal microflora disruption resulted from antibiotic therapy, this result suggests that the intestinal microflora disruption resulted from antibiotic therapy is a risk factor for allergy and asthma.
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Havoc

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Interesting study. I know there are more coming out as well. There's an ongoing study at the Pittsburgh center by Dr. J Koll. I recently had my blood drawn and banked for future analysis.
 

Havoc

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Interesting study. I know there are more coming out as well. There's an ongoing study at the Pittsburgh center by Dr. J Koll. I recently had my blood drawn and banked for future analysis.
 

Havoc

New member
Interesting study. I know there are more coming out as well. There's an ongoing study at the Pittsburgh center by Dr. J Koll. I recently had my blood drawn and banked for future analysis.
 

Havoc

New member
Interesting study. I know there are more coming out as well. There's an ongoing study at the Pittsburgh center by Dr. J Koll. I recently had my blood drawn and banked for future analysis.
 

Havoc

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Interesting study. I know there are more coming out as well. There's an ongoing study at the Pittsburgh center by Dr. J Koll. I recently had my blood drawn and banked for future analysis.
 
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tarheel

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Okay so this is all hitting you like a ton of bricks I'm sure. Let me tell you my experiances. When first dxed we took a really drastic approach (documented culture,ige) and I was so miserable for about three years on high doses of steroids and even wearing a mold mask outside. Stopped that nonsense and now I straight out refuse steroids. My ige reaches 4000 and normal is 1600ish but it is just one number and one measurement and only you know how you're really feeling so don't let anyone tell you otherwise. My abpa has flared up a few times and treated with blasts of pred but that was when I knew I needed it- unless you know you need treatment don't push yourself into anything too drastic too fast. However for the record I do take singulair and advair. FYI
 
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tarheel

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Okay so this is all hitting you like a ton of bricks I'm sure. Let me tell you my experiances. When first dxed we took a really drastic approach (documented culture,ige) and I was so miserable for about three years on high doses of steroids and even wearing a mold mask outside. Stopped that nonsense and now I straight out refuse steroids. My ige reaches 4000 and normal is 1600ish but it is just one number and one measurement and only you know how you're really feeling so don't let anyone tell you otherwise. My abpa has flared up a few times and treated with blasts of pred but that was when I knew I needed it- unless you know you need treatment don't push yourself into anything too drastic too fast. However for the record I do take singulair and advair. FYI
 
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tarheel

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Okay so this is all hitting you like a ton of bricks I'm sure. Let me tell you my experiances. When first dxed we took a really drastic approach (documented culture,ige) and I was so miserable for about three years on high doses of steroids and even wearing a mold mask outside. Stopped that nonsense and now I straight out refuse steroids. My ige reaches 4000 and normal is 1600ish but it is just one number and one measurement and only you know how you're really feeling so don't let anyone tell you otherwise. My abpa has flared up a few times and treated with blasts of pred but that was when I knew I needed it- unless you know you need treatment don't push yourself into anything too drastic too fast. However for the record I do take singulair and advair. FYI
 
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tarheel

Guest
Okay so this is all hitting you like a ton of bricks I'm sure. Let me tell you my experiances. When first dxed we took a really drastic approach (documented culture,ige) and I was so miserable for about three years on high doses of steroids and even wearing a mold mask outside. Stopped that nonsense and now I straight out refuse steroids. My ige reaches 4000 and normal is 1600ish but it is just one number and one measurement and only you know how you're really feeling so don't let anyone tell you otherwise. My abpa has flared up a few times and treated with blasts of pred but that was when I knew I needed it- unless you know you need treatment don't push yourself into anything too drastic too fast. However for the record I do take singulair and advair. FYI
 
T

tarheel

Guest
Okay so this is all hitting you like a ton of bricks I'm sure. Let me tell you my experiances. When first dxed we took a really drastic approach (documented culture,ige) and I was so miserable for about three years on high doses of steroids and even wearing a mold mask outside. Stopped that nonsense and now I straight out refuse steroids. My ige reaches 4000 and normal is 1600ish but it is just one number and one measurement and only you know how you're really feeling so don't let anyone tell you otherwise. My abpa has flared up a few times and treated with blasts of pred but that was when I knew I needed it- unless you know you need treatment don't push yourself into anything too drastic too fast. However for the record I do take singulair and advair. FYI
 
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