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JazzysMom

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OHHHHHHHH Sweety I related. I had/have a shoulder pain that started when I was on iv's in April 2006 & it got progressively worse. In November 2006 I could no longer dress myself, wash my hair or really move my arm. I went to the chiropractor who I adore and think he is a miracle worker. It didnt do anything. He told me to get to an orthopedic and get am MRI to make sure we arent dealing with anything worse then thought.

I went to 2 orthos. Never had an MRI...just an xray. No MRI was ordered because I didnt have any "accident" that caused this. IMHO that is even MORE reason, but hey. I went to therapy which helped and made it worse at the same time. The actual joint motion improved, but the muscles surrounding it got worse. I also did weights etc during the 13 weeks of therapy.

I stopped going because the insurance was reducing my visits since I was improving even tho I will was in pain, had improved, but limited range of motion and still not sleeping well.

Now a days its an issue, but I can dress myself/wash my hair and shave under my arms (ewww I know), but its still not right. Ironically when I have my hubby massage my back. He knows the trigger spots that not only surge the pain to the joint area, but it feels like it is going thru my chest AND it moves plugs like crazy.

So this is where I stand after 1 1/2 years of initial onset~~~~

1)No official cause, but IMHO definitely linked to the picc that was in that arm &/or the meds. Have had a picc with same meds in other arm since with no issue.

2)No additional testing except xray which showed nothing. Had one cortizone shot which I will NEVER do again as it paralyzed me and put me in 50000000000% more pain for the first 12 hours after receiving it.

3)Did go to therapy for 13 weeks with improvement of range of motion & decrease in pain, but didnt eliminate it all together.

4)Stopped going to therapy, have hubby do massage & do some of my own stretching to make each day tolerable.
 

JazzysMom

New member
OHHHHHHHH Sweety I related. I had/have a shoulder pain that started when I was on iv's in April 2006 & it got progressively worse. In November 2006 I could no longer dress myself, wash my hair or really move my arm. I went to the chiropractor who I adore and think he is a miracle worker. It didnt do anything. He told me to get to an orthopedic and get am MRI to make sure we arent dealing with anything worse then thought.

I went to 2 orthos. Never had an MRI...just an xray. No MRI was ordered because I didnt have any "accident" that caused this. IMHO that is even MORE reason, but hey. I went to therapy which helped and made it worse at the same time. The actual joint motion improved, but the muscles surrounding it got worse. I also did weights etc during the 13 weeks of therapy.

I stopped going because the insurance was reducing my visits since I was improving even tho I will was in pain, had improved, but limited range of motion and still not sleeping well.

Now a days its an issue, but I can dress myself/wash my hair and shave under my arms (ewww I know), but its still not right. Ironically when I have my hubby massage my back. He knows the trigger spots that not only surge the pain to the joint area, but it feels like it is going thru my chest AND it moves plugs like crazy.

So this is where I stand after 1 1/2 years of initial onset~~~~

1)No official cause, but IMHO definitely linked to the picc that was in that arm &/or the meds. Have had a picc with same meds in other arm since with no issue.

2)No additional testing except xray which showed nothing. Had one cortizone shot which I will NEVER do again as it paralyzed me and put me in 50000000000% more pain for the first 12 hours after receiving it.

3)Did go to therapy for 13 weeks with improvement of range of motion & decrease in pain, but didnt eliminate it all together.

4)Stopped going to therapy, have hubby do massage & do some of my own stretching to make each day tolerable.
 

JazzysMom

New member
OHHHHHHHH Sweety I related. I had/have a shoulder pain that started when I was on iv's in April 2006 & it got progressively worse. In November 2006 I could no longer dress myself, wash my hair or really move my arm. I went to the chiropractor who I adore and think he is a miracle worker. It didnt do anything. He told me to get to an orthopedic and get am MRI to make sure we arent dealing with anything worse then thought.

I went to 2 orthos. Never had an MRI...just an xray. No MRI was ordered because I didnt have any "accident" that caused this. IMHO that is even MORE reason, but hey. I went to therapy which helped and made it worse at the same time. The actual joint motion improved, but the muscles surrounding it got worse. I also did weights etc during the 13 weeks of therapy.

I stopped going because the insurance was reducing my visits since I was improving even tho I will was in pain, had improved, but limited range of motion and still not sleeping well.

Now a days its an issue, but I can dress myself/wash my hair and shave under my arms (ewww I know), but its still not right. Ironically when I have my hubby massage my back. He knows the trigger spots that not only surge the pain to the joint area, but it feels like it is going thru my chest AND it moves plugs like crazy.

So this is where I stand after 1 1/2 years of initial onset~~~~

1)No official cause, but IMHO definitely linked to the picc that was in that arm &/or the meds. Have had a picc with same meds in other arm since with no issue.

2)No additional testing except xray which showed nothing. Had one cortizone shot which I will NEVER do again as it paralyzed me and put me in 50000000000% more pain for the first 12 hours after receiving it.

3)Did go to therapy for 13 weeks with improvement of range of motion & decrease in pain, but didnt eliminate it all together.

4)Stopped going to therapy, have hubby do massage & do some of my own stretching to make each day tolerable.
 

JazzysMom

New member
OHHHHHHHH Sweety I related. I had/have a shoulder pain that started when I was on iv's in April 2006 & it got progressively worse. In November 2006 I could no longer dress myself, wash my hair or really move my arm. I went to the chiropractor who I adore and think he is a miracle worker. It didnt do anything. He told me to get to an orthopedic and get am MRI to make sure we arent dealing with anything worse then thought.

I went to 2 orthos. Never had an MRI...just an xray. No MRI was ordered because I didnt have any "accident" that caused this. IMHO that is even MORE reason, but hey. I went to therapy which helped and made it worse at the same time. The actual joint motion improved, but the muscles surrounding it got worse. I also did weights etc during the 13 weeks of therapy.

I stopped going because the insurance was reducing my visits since I was improving even tho I will was in pain, had improved, but limited range of motion and still not sleeping well.

Now a days its an issue, but I can dress myself/wash my hair and shave under my arms (ewww I know), but its still not right. Ironically when I have my hubby massage my back. He knows the trigger spots that not only surge the pain to the joint area, but it feels like it is going thru my chest AND it moves plugs like crazy.

So this is where I stand after 1 1/2 years of initial onset~~~~

1)No official cause, but IMHO definitely linked to the picc that was in that arm &/or the meds. Have had a picc with same meds in other arm since with no issue.

2)No additional testing except xray which showed nothing. Had one cortizone shot which I will NEVER do again as it paralyzed me and put me in 50000000000% more pain for the first 12 hours after receiving it.

3)Did go to therapy for 13 weeks with improvement of range of motion & decrease in pain, but didnt eliminate it all together.

4)Stopped going to therapy, have hubby do massage & do some of my own stretching to make each day tolerable.
 

thefrogprincess

New member
I have an appointment with the doc on Wednesday. I shouldn't have any trouble getting an MRI ordered. At the beginning of this the doc said that if physical therapy didn't work, or didn't work well enough that she would order it. So that's where we stand right now.
 

thefrogprincess

New member
I have an appointment with the doc on Wednesday. I shouldn't have any trouble getting an MRI ordered. At the beginning of this the doc said that if physical therapy didn't work, or didn't work well enough that she would order it. So that's where we stand right now.
 

thefrogprincess

New member
I have an appointment with the doc on Wednesday. I shouldn't have any trouble getting an MRI ordered. At the beginning of this the doc said that if physical therapy didn't work, or didn't work well enough that she would order it. So that's where we stand right now.
 

thefrogprincess

New member
I have an appointment with the doc on Wednesday. I shouldn't have any trouble getting an MRI ordered. At the beginning of this the doc said that if physical therapy didn't work, or didn't work well enough that she would order it. So that's where we stand right now.
 

thefrogprincess

New member
I have an appointment with the doc on Wednesday. I shouldn't have any trouble getting an MRI ordered. At the beginning of this the doc said that if physical therapy didn't work, or didn't work well enough that she would order it. So that's where we stand right now.
 

thefrogprincess

New member
I have an appointment with the doc on Wednesday. I shouldn't have any trouble getting an MRI ordered. At the beginning of this the doc said that if physical therapy didn't work, or didn't work well enough that she would order it. So that's where we stand right now.
 

mom2lillian

New member
Jessi-you may also want to try a different chiro if nothing else works. Every one is different, trained in different methods. Any chiro that will continue to treat you 3x a week with no improvement and just continue with that pattern sounds a bit shady to me, and there are a few out there unfortunately. The 'best' chiro in my experience is one that is versatily trained in a variety of methods including manual and activator methods.
 

mom2lillian

New member
Jessi-you may also want to try a different chiro if nothing else works. Every one is different, trained in different methods. Any chiro that will continue to treat you 3x a week with no improvement and just continue with that pattern sounds a bit shady to me, and there are a few out there unfortunately. The 'best' chiro in my experience is one that is versatily trained in a variety of methods including manual and activator methods.
 

mom2lillian

New member
Jessi-you may also want to try a different chiro if nothing else works. Every one is different, trained in different methods. Any chiro that will continue to treat you 3x a week with no improvement and just continue with that pattern sounds a bit shady to me, and there are a few out there unfortunately. The 'best' chiro in my experience is one that is versatily trained in a variety of methods including manual and activator methods.
 

mom2lillian

New member
Jessi-you may also want to try a different chiro if nothing else works. Every one is different, trained in different methods. Any chiro that will continue to treat you 3x a week with no improvement and just continue with that pattern sounds a bit shady to me, and there are a few out there unfortunately. The 'best' chiro in my experience is one that is versatily trained in a variety of methods including manual and activator methods.
 

mom2lillian

New member
Jessi-you may also want to try a different chiro if nothing else works. Every one is different, trained in different methods. Any chiro that will continue to treat you 3x a week with no improvement and just continue with that pattern sounds a bit shady to me, and there are a few out there unfortunately. The 'best' chiro in my experience is one that is versatily trained in a variety of methods including manual and activator methods.
 

mom2lillian

New member
Jessi-you may also want to try a different chiro if nothing else works. Every one is different, trained in different methods. Any chiro that will continue to treat you 3x a week with no improvement and just continue with that pattern sounds a bit shady to me, and there are a few out there unfortunately. The 'best' chiro in my experience is one that is versatily trained in a variety of methods including manual and activator methods.
 

babycakes

New member
Hey there,
I've been a registered massage therapist for 10 yrs. Physio's don't learn alot of manual massage therapy, they use alot of other machines etc. If you want this to go away you need to let your muscles heal . You can work out like crazy but it sounds to me like you have some thoracic ribs that aren't articulating properly with your spine.
I agree 100% with those who have said do massage and then do chiro. You need to get those muscles loosened up so that the chiro can fix the rib problem. Once the muscles are loose they will be more willing to allow the adjustment . Right now your muscles are stretched out of normal position. Once the ribs are back in place the muscles can shrink back to normal length. It should take 3 tx of massage and chiro to fix it . However, it will probably be a recurring injury.
 

babycakes

New member
Hey there,
I've been a registered massage therapist for 10 yrs. Physio's don't learn alot of manual massage therapy, they use alot of other machines etc. If you want this to go away you need to let your muscles heal . You can work out like crazy but it sounds to me like you have some thoracic ribs that aren't articulating properly with your spine.
I agree 100% with those who have said do massage and then do chiro. You need to get those muscles loosened up so that the chiro can fix the rib problem. Once the muscles are loose they will be more willing to allow the adjustment . Right now your muscles are stretched out of normal position. Once the ribs are back in place the muscles can shrink back to normal length. It should take 3 tx of massage and chiro to fix it . However, it will probably be a recurring injury.
 

babycakes

New member
Hey there,
I've been a registered massage therapist for 10 yrs. Physio's don't learn alot of manual massage therapy, they use alot of other machines etc. If you want this to go away you need to let your muscles heal . You can work out like crazy but it sounds to me like you have some thoracic ribs that aren't articulating properly with your spine.
I agree 100% with those who have said do massage and then do chiro. You need to get those muscles loosened up so that the chiro can fix the rib problem. Once the muscles are loose they will be more willing to allow the adjustment . Right now your muscles are stretched out of normal position. Once the ribs are back in place the muscles can shrink back to normal length. It should take 3 tx of massage and chiro to fix it . However, it will probably be a recurring injury.
 

babycakes

New member
Hey there,
I've been a registered massage therapist for 10 yrs. Physio's don't learn alot of manual massage therapy, they use alot of other machines etc. If you want this to go away you need to let your muscles heal . You can work out like crazy but it sounds to me like you have some thoracic ribs that aren't articulating properly with your spine.
I agree 100% with those who have said do massage and then do chiro. You need to get those muscles loosened up so that the chiro can fix the rib problem. Once the muscles are loose they will be more willing to allow the adjustment . Right now your muscles are stretched out of normal position. Once the ribs are back in place the muscles can shrink back to normal length. It should take 3 tx of massage and chiro to fix it . However, it will probably be a recurring injury.
 
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