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Diane

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Im just curious as to what has to happen before something gets done ? In my personal opinion we have already passed that point.
 

Diane

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Im just curious as to what has to happen before something gets done ? In my personal opinion we have already passed that point.
 
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2perfectboys

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Jane</b></i>

I have also brought my children up to be caring and empathetic to others. To be kind to those less fortunate and considerate of ones with different views. To love rather than judge. When my boys prove to be young men of good character, then I will be proud.</end quote></div>

??? So are you saying Amy's mother did not do this???? Or as I believe, she is a great parent. You can only raise your child so much, but they eventually have to become adults and be responsible for themselves. From postings I have read from Amymom, she started at a young age raising an indendent child which is so great, especially when you have CF and will need to stand up for yourself in life. I have been very impressed at Amysmom's postis. SHe is always has wise words and ofters support to others. But where she gets your know it all attitude or bitterness I do not know. She has so much to learn in life, to all us older ones, you know how it was when you were 25, thought you knew it all. If we could only do it all over again.

As far as her academic and professional life, I would be proud of my child for these. But a Bachelor's degree is not that big of a deal. They are very common place in today's society. And she should be able to work, she has nothing that limits her not to. It's not like she is the only person with CF being productive. There are a lot of them out there. I like to get CFers insight about growing up w/ CF. I think Emily does a good job answering about her experiences. But that's just what they are. Experiences, not the only way to live life and not the only person to have lived it.

Lori
 
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2perfectboys

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Jane</b></i>

I have also brought my children up to be caring and empathetic to others. To be kind to those less fortunate and considerate of ones with different views. To love rather than judge. When my boys prove to be young men of good character, then I will be proud.</end quote></div>

??? So are you saying Amy's mother did not do this???? Or as I believe, she is a great parent. You can only raise your child so much, but they eventually have to become adults and be responsible for themselves. From postings I have read from Amymom, she started at a young age raising an indendent child which is so great, especially when you have CF and will need to stand up for yourself in life. I have been very impressed at Amysmom's postis. SHe is always has wise words and ofters support to others. But where she gets your know it all attitude or bitterness I do not know. She has so much to learn in life, to all us older ones, you know how it was when you were 25, thought you knew it all. If we could only do it all over again.

As far as her academic and professional life, I would be proud of my child for these. But a Bachelor's degree is not that big of a deal. They are very common place in today's society. And she should be able to work, she has nothing that limits her not to. It's not like she is the only person with CF being productive. There are a lot of them out there. I like to get CFers insight about growing up w/ CF. I think Emily does a good job answering about her experiences. But that's just what they are. Experiences, not the only way to live life and not the only person to have lived it.

Lori
 
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2perfectboys

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Jane</b></i>

I have also brought my children up to be caring and empathetic to others. To be kind to those less fortunate and considerate of ones with different views. To love rather than judge. When my boys prove to be young men of good character, then I will be proud.</end quote></div>

??? So are you saying Amy's mother did not do this???? Or as I believe, she is a great parent. You can only raise your child so much, but they eventually have to become adults and be responsible for themselves. From postings I have read from Amymom, she started at a young age raising an indendent child which is so great, especially when you have CF and will need to stand up for yourself in life. I have been very impressed at Amysmom's postis. SHe is always has wise words and ofters support to others. But where she gets your know it all attitude or bitterness I do not know. She has so much to learn in life, to all us older ones, you know how it was when you were 25, thought you knew it all. If we could only do it all over again.

As far as her academic and professional life, I would be proud of my child for these. But a Bachelor's degree is not that big of a deal. They are very common place in today's society. And she should be able to work, she has nothing that limits her not to. It's not like she is the only person with CF being productive. There are a lot of them out there. I like to get CFers insight about growing up w/ CF. I think Emily does a good job answering about her experiences. But that's just what they are. Experiences, not the only way to live life and not the only person to have lived it.

Lori
 

Emily65Roses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>2perfectboys</b></i>
But a Bachelor's degree is not that big of a deal. They are very common place in today's society. And she should be able to work, she has nothing that limits her not to.
Lori</end quote></div>

I disagree entirely. A Bachelor's degree is still lots of hard work. Amy may be in good health right now, but because she has CF, she does by definition have something that limits her not to work. And I might add, she works full time. Working full time when you've got CF, even in good health, is a b*tch. She spends a lot of her weekends just resting, recovering from the week of hard work she put in.

Oh and... Amy's going back to school for her Master's.

And I might add, Bachelor's aren't as common place as you may think. The newest numbers I have are only from 2004, but...
"According to new tables released on the Internet titled Educational Attainment in the United States: 2004, 28 percent had attained at least a bachelor's degree."
(Source: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/004214.html">http://www.census.gov/Press-Re.../education/004214.html</a> )
 

Emily65Roses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>2perfectboys</b></i>
But a Bachelor's degree is not that big of a deal. They are very common place in today's society. And she should be able to work, she has nothing that limits her not to.
Lori</end quote></div>

I disagree entirely. A Bachelor's degree is still lots of hard work. Amy may be in good health right now, but because she has CF, she does by definition have something that limits her not to work. And I might add, she works full time. Working full time when you've got CF, even in good health, is a b*tch. She spends a lot of her weekends just resting, recovering from the week of hard work she put in.

Oh and... Amy's going back to school for her Master's.

And I might add, Bachelor's aren't as common place as you may think. The newest numbers I have are only from 2004, but...
"According to new tables released on the Internet titled Educational Attainment in the United States: 2004, 28 percent had attained at least a bachelor's degree."
(Source: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/004214.html">http://www.census.gov/Press-Re.../education/004214.html</a> )
 

Emily65Roses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>2perfectboys</b></i>
But a Bachelor's degree is not that big of a deal. They are very common place in today's society. And she should be able to work, she has nothing that limits her not to.
Lori</end quote></div>

I disagree entirely. A Bachelor's degree is still lots of hard work. Amy may be in good health right now, but because she has CF, she does by definition have something that limits her not to work. And I might add, she works full time. Working full time when you've got CF, even in good health, is a b*tch. She spends a lot of her weekends just resting, recovering from the week of hard work she put in.

Oh and... Amy's going back to school for her Master's.

And I might add, Bachelor's aren't as common place as you may think. The newest numbers I have are only from 2004, but...
"According to new tables released on the Internet titled Educational Attainment in the United States: 2004, 28 percent had attained at least a bachelor's degree."
(Source: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/education/004214.html">http://www.census.gov/Press-Re.../education/004214.html</a> )
 
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2perfectboys

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

I also wanted to add: Those of you chiming in and mocking her, having a good laugh... do you think that makes you mature and reasonable adults? q]

I'm not mocking her, I'm stating a fact. And I can laugh if I want, because it's actually pretty sad, that people are constantly complaining about her. She personally doesn't bother me, but it bother's me that so many people are always upset from her. I am being a responsible adult by standing up for others and seeing that people are treated appropriate. If you wnt to call me an 8th grade bully that is fine with me, but I never called anyone any names. You said it correctly when u used the word tact, a word a lot of us fail to consider when our fingers do the talking, so if there was something tactless I said, I appologize, I will look at it again and see if I can rephrase it more elequently.

Lori
 
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2perfectboys

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

I also wanted to add: Those of you chiming in and mocking her, having a good laugh... do you think that makes you mature and reasonable adults? q]

I'm not mocking her, I'm stating a fact. And I can laugh if I want, because it's actually pretty sad, that people are constantly complaining about her. She personally doesn't bother me, but it bother's me that so many people are always upset from her. I am being a responsible adult by standing up for others and seeing that people are treated appropriate. If you wnt to call me an 8th grade bully that is fine with me, but I never called anyone any names. You said it correctly when u used the word tact, a word a lot of us fail to consider when our fingers do the talking, so if there was something tactless I said, I appologize, I will look at it again and see if I can rephrase it more elequently.

Lori
 
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2perfectboys

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

I also wanted to add: Those of you chiming in and mocking her, having a good laugh... do you think that makes you mature and reasonable adults? q]

I'm not mocking her, I'm stating a fact. And I can laugh if I want, because it's actually pretty sad, that people are constantly complaining about her. She personally doesn't bother me, but it bother's me that so many people are always upset from her. I am being a responsible adult by standing up for others and seeing that people are treated appropriate. If you wnt to call me an 8th grade bully that is fine with me, but I never called anyone any names. You said it correctly when u used the word tact, a word a lot of us fail to consider when our fingers do the talking, so if there was something tactless I said, I appologize, I will look at it again and see if I can rephrase it more elequently.

Lori
 

Lilith

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I have something to ask all of you people whining and complaining about "untactful comments". Have none of you ever been to high school? And if you have, have none of you ever been told something by a peer that you didn't like? I would love to know just how many of you ran to the teacher and asked for that peer to be expelled because they (god forbid) called you something or said something to you that you found offensive. Because that's exactly what you're doing here, and its pitiful. You call Amy immature? Look in the mirror. And while you're at it, grow a backbone. People will piss you off, both in real life and the internet, and say things you won't agree with. If you can't handle that, you are not an adult, and I really have to wonder how you manage to cope with real human beings in your real life.

Oh, and by the way:

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>2perfectboys</b></i>

A lot of people that have come to this site, have told me they left because of all the negative people on this site.</end quote></div>

Look it up in the dictionary, because "realistic" and "negative" do not mean the same thing. I'm glad that these people left, if that's the case. If you can't handle the truth, that's your problem.
 

Lilith

New member
I have something to ask all of you people whining and complaining about "untactful comments". Have none of you ever been to high school? And if you have, have none of you ever been told something by a peer that you didn't like? I would love to know just how many of you ran to the teacher and asked for that peer to be expelled because they (god forbid) called you something or said something to you that you found offensive. Because that's exactly what you're doing here, and its pitiful. You call Amy immature? Look in the mirror. And while you're at it, grow a backbone. People will piss you off, both in real life and the internet, and say things you won't agree with. If you can't handle that, you are not an adult, and I really have to wonder how you manage to cope with real human beings in your real life.

Oh, and by the way:

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>2perfectboys</b></i>

A lot of people that have come to this site, have told me they left because of all the negative people on this site.</end quote></div>

Look it up in the dictionary, because "realistic" and "negative" do not mean the same thing. I'm glad that these people left, if that's the case. If you can't handle the truth, that's your problem.
 

Lilith

New member
I have something to ask all of you people whining and complaining about "untactful comments". Have none of you ever been to high school? And if you have, have none of you ever been told something by a peer that you didn't like? I would love to know just how many of you ran to the teacher and asked for that peer to be expelled because they (god forbid) called you something or said something to you that you found offensive. Because that's exactly what you're doing here, and its pitiful. You call Amy immature? Look in the mirror. And while you're at it, grow a backbone. People will piss you off, both in real life and the internet, and say things you won't agree with. If you can't handle that, you are not an adult, and I really have to wonder how you manage to cope with real human beings in your real life.

Oh, and by the way:

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>2perfectboys</b></i>

A lot of people that have come to this site, have told me they left because of all the negative people on this site.</end quote></div>

Look it up in the dictionary, because "realistic" and "negative" do not mean the same thing. I'm glad that these people left, if that's the case. If you can't handle the truth, that's your problem.
 

Emily65Roses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>2perfectboys</b></i>
I chuckle thinking how miserable her life must be and how proud her mother must be of her. But then maybe I should not judge someone that is dealing with a terminal disease that is progreesive and chances are will probably be deceased in the next 10 years, sorry, that was a lack of compassion, but just how she views this disease in the litttle kids that have CF. IF she only had a bad knee to worry about, I'm sure she could smile more.
Lori</end quote></div>

Excuse me for saying, but that (to me, at least, anyone else?) has a very mocking tone.
 

Emily65Roses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>2perfectboys</b></i>
I chuckle thinking how miserable her life must be and how proud her mother must be of her. But then maybe I should not judge someone that is dealing with a terminal disease that is progreesive and chances are will probably be deceased in the next 10 years, sorry, that was a lack of compassion, but just how she views this disease in the litttle kids that have CF. IF she only had a bad knee to worry about, I'm sure she could smile more.
Lori</end quote></div>

Excuse me for saying, but that (to me, at least, anyone else?) has a very mocking tone.
 

Emily65Roses

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>2perfectboys</b></i>
I chuckle thinking how miserable her life must be and how proud her mother must be of her. But then maybe I should not judge someone that is dealing with a terminal disease that is progreesive and chances are will probably be deceased in the next 10 years, sorry, that was a lack of compassion, but just how she views this disease in the litttle kids that have CF. IF she only had a bad knee to worry about, I'm sure she could smile more.
Lori</end quote></div>

Excuse me for saying, but that (to me, at least, anyone else?) has a very mocking tone.
 

Lilith

New member
It's not just mocking; its judging. Who are you that you can determine if somone is miserable or not because they don't see things the way you do?! YOU HAVE NO PLACE SAYING ANYTHING OF THE SORT, PERIOD. And its the same thing you're mad at Amy for doing. So good job being a hypocrit. This whole thing is nothing more than a pissing match, seriously.
 

Lilith

New member
It's not just mocking; its judging. Who are you that you can determine if somone is miserable or not because they don't see things the way you do?! YOU HAVE NO PLACE SAYING ANYTHING OF THE SORT, PERIOD. And its the same thing you're mad at Amy for doing. So good job being a hypocrit. This whole thing is nothing more than a pissing match, seriously.
 

Lilith

New member
It's not just mocking; its judging. Who are you that you can determine if somone is miserable or not because they don't see things the way you do?! YOU HAVE NO PLACE SAYING ANYTHING OF THE SORT, PERIOD. And its the same thing you're mad at Amy for doing. So good job being a hypocrit. This whole thing is nothing more than a pissing match, seriously.
 
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