I'm No Scrooge, But Here's What Irks Me

Emily65Roses · Feb 27, 2006

Hahaha. Thanks you guys. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

<blockquote>Quote <hr>Originally posted by: Debi But a word of advice to Emily and Allie. I think you are wasting your time continuing the conversation with "anonymous." I think "anonymous" is having fun getting a rise out of you. You both have so many wonderful things to say and offer - please don't waste another minute on this person. Share yourselves with people who actually want to get something valuable out of the forum instead of those who are afraid to even say their name.<hr></blockquote>
As for this, just had to let you know. No one's getting a rise out of me. I think it's all quite amusing. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Vote for Emily for president 2008!!!!

And rarrrrr I'm a tiger! *claw, growl*

Emily65Roses · Feb 27, 2006

Hahaha. Thanks you guys. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">

<blockquote>Quote <hr>Originally posted by: Debi But a word of advice to Emily and Allie. I think you are wasting your time continuing the conversation with "anonymous." I think "anonymous" is having fun getting a rise out of you. You both have so many wonderful things to say and offer - please don't waste another minute on this person. Share yourselves with people who actually want to get something valuable out of the forum instead of those who are afraid to even say their name.<hr></blockquote>
As for this, just had to let you know. No one's getting a rise out of me. I think it's all quite amusing. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

Vote for Emily for president 2008!!!!

And rarrrrr I'm a tiger! *claw, growl*

anonymous · Feb 28, 2006

WOW...I have to say that I was the first anonymous to call you out for attacking me Emily, but it clearly looks like some other people have posted as anonymous as well to give you the impression that I've been the only anonymous poster. Guess what? You'd be wrong to think that... but it's not the first time you'd be wrong about someone.

It would seem that you, who claims to be so smart and intelligent, can't figure things on your own. Quite a while ago I asked Allie some questions about her husband, and why he would want to die instead of having the chance for a transplant especially since he had a wife and child... ring any bells? You and her and a couple other people took that question of mine and accused me of saying that I was accusing Ry of not caring, and giving up on life, and Allie made it very clear that I was attacking Ry... it was very shamefull of all of you because when I responded to your attack saying that I wanted to understand and didn't comprehend the idea of not wanting to live and having a chance at a transplant... you all continued... it was only one other poster (can't remember his name) that agreed with me that he couldn't understand not wanting the chance at a transplant.

And to the smart a$$ who is saying 'anonymous' is only saying things to get a rise out of you... Get a clue.

Emily felt the need to post her opinion about people saying things about 'what irks her' so I have the absolute same right to tell her 'what irks me', which is her jumping on people attacking when she didn't clearly understand what was said to begin with, and then not having the sense to aske to clearify. Basically her assuming things about me! Isn't it funny that when you don't agree with someone that person is labled as being in the wrong? I have said it before and I'll say it again. Just because you don't believe the exact thing I believe in doesn't make you right, and me wrong. Unfortunately the same thing applies to people's beliefs in religions. Some people think if you don't pray and repent what happens to you is your fault. Deal with it Emily... that is their believe, but at least it doesn't have to be your belief. Doesn't mean you are right, and they are wrong. Budists believe that if a child is born with a disease then their parents weren't thinking of god at time of conception. Deal with it. It's their belief.

But you were wrong on assuming something of me, and it's a shame that even when I tried to get you to understand where I was coming from you put the wall up, and wouldn't listen to a word I said back then. Oh, and don't try to say that you do ask if you don't understand when earlier you stated that if you asked everyone you didn't understand you'd never get anything done. That's why assuming makes an a$$ out of you. Never assume anything; if you don't understand ask. That is the number one key rule in life. So back to the general idea at hand.. we know what irks you... What irks me is people attacking people with out understanding what they talking about. I came on here anonymously to see if you could figure it out, but apparently it was nothing to you, and the fact that you have to make remarks that if I wasn't going to tell you my name then it means nothing to you... aren't you just a wonderful person?

Again, if it rings no bells to you then it clearly shows that you can attack a person and have no cares in the world later on. My user name is SupermanFan. Get it now?

anonymous · Feb 28, 2006

WOW...I have to say that I was the first anonymous to call you out for attacking me Emily, but it clearly looks like some other people have posted as anonymous as well to give you the impression that I've been the only anonymous poster. Guess what? You'd be wrong to think that... but it's not the first time you'd be wrong about someone.

It would seem that you, who claims to be so smart and intelligent, can't figure things on your own. Quite a while ago I asked Allie some questions about her husband, and why he would want to die instead of having the chance for a transplant especially since he had a wife and child... ring any bells? You and her and a couple other people took that question of mine and accused me of saying that I was accusing Ry of not caring, and giving up on life, and Allie made it very clear that I was attacking Ry... it was very shamefull of all of you because when I responded to your attack saying that I wanted to understand and didn't comprehend the idea of not wanting to live and having a chance at a transplant... you all continued... it was only one other poster (can't remember his name) that agreed with me that he couldn't understand not wanting the chance at a transplant.

And to the smart a$$ who is saying 'anonymous' is only saying things to get a rise out of you... Get a clue.

Emily felt the need to post her opinion about people saying things about 'what irks her' so I have the absolute same right to tell her 'what irks me', which is her jumping on people attacking when she didn't clearly understand what was said to begin with, and then not having the sense to aske to clearify. Basically her assuming things about me! Isn't it funny that when you don't agree with someone that person is labled as being in the wrong? I have said it before and I'll say it again. Just because you don't believe the exact thing I believe in doesn't make you right, and me wrong. Unfortunately the same thing applies to people's beliefs in religions. Some people think if you don't pray and repent what happens to you is your fault. Deal with it Emily... that is their believe, but at least it doesn't have to be your belief. Doesn't mean you are right, and they are wrong. Budists believe that if a child is born with a disease then their parents weren't thinking of god at time of conception. Deal with it. It's their belief.

But you were wrong on assuming something of me, and it's a shame that even when I tried to get you to understand where I was coming from you put the wall up, and wouldn't listen to a word I said back then. Oh, and don't try to say that you do ask if you don't understand when earlier you stated that if you asked everyone you didn't understand you'd never get anything done. That's why assuming makes an a$$ out of you. Never assume anything; if you don't understand ask. That is the number one key rule in life. So back to the general idea at hand.. we know what irks you... What irks me is people attacking people with out understanding what they talking about. I came on here anonymously to see if you could figure it out, but apparently it was nothing to you, and the fact that you have to make remarks that if I wasn't going to tell you my name then it means nothing to you... aren't you just a wonderful person?

Again, if it rings no bells to you then it clearly shows that you can attack a person and have no cares in the world later on. My user name is SupermanFan. Get it now?

Emily65Roses · Feb 28, 2006

I never assumed it was all the same person. You have proper spelling and grammar. There was some anoynmous idiot who didn't and very clearly wasn't you.

None of the people I talk to will be surprised to see you admit who you are. We had you pegged a few days ago. We're also pretty sure we know who the other anonymous is.

Even if I'm "heartless" and "rude" and "attack people" and blah blah blah... that doesn't equate with me being an idiot. Of course I remember you.

I think telling people that you can't possibly understand how their dead husbands wouldn't choose to live for them and their children is a really sh*tty thing to do. Deal with it. It's my belief.

If you go back to the very beginning, I recall saying things that made it clear that I thought that opinion sucked, but was curious as to why anyone would think so. Let me paste from an earlier post of mine...
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<hr>I never said I was right and everyone else was wrong, either. Pay attention, nameless wonder. You need to read more carefully. I said I think it's disgusting and that's my... wait... you listening? PERSONAL OPINION. Which, last I checked, I'm entitled to.<hr></blockquote>
I think that's pretty clear.

Emily65Roses · Feb 28, 2006

I never assumed it was all the same person. You have proper spelling and grammar. There was some anoynmous idiot who didn't and very clearly wasn't you.

None of the people I talk to will be surprised to see you admit who you are. We had you pegged a few days ago. We're also pretty sure we know who the other anonymous is.

Even if I'm "heartless" and "rude" and "attack people" and blah blah blah... that doesn't equate with me being an idiot. Of course I remember you.

I think telling people that you can't possibly understand how their dead husbands wouldn't choose to live for them and their children is a really sh*tty thing to do. Deal with it. It's my belief.

If you go back to the very beginning, I recall saying things that made it clear that I thought that opinion sucked, but was curious as to why anyone would think so. Let me paste from an earlier post of mine...
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<hr>I never said I was right and everyone else was wrong, either. Pay attention, nameless wonder. You need to read more carefully. I said I think it's disgusting and that's my... wait... you listening? PERSONAL OPINION. Which, last I checked, I'm entitled to.<hr></blockquote>
I think that's pretty clear.

JennifersHope · Feb 28, 2006

I was hoping that this thread would go away because I hate it. I debated replying eariler but didn't but now I feel upset about it so I am going to share.

Superman Fan, You are really entitled to your feelings, thoughts and ideas as much as Emily is. When Emily made this post, she was venting and sharing her feelings. She didn't attack anyone.. or call anyone out...Knowing Emily through her posts and chatting with her, to me, It looks more like if anything she was comming behind Allie to support her. If you had your feelings hurt or were upset with Emily personally, why are you publically speaking about it?

She has private messages and in any relationship good, bad, or indifferent. It is best to directly go to the person you are upset with.. Not call them out publically.

...... Emily has proven herself to be a mature person at least in my veiws of her and from what I have seen from her.. I am a total Christian, believe in God with all my heart.. and as you know Emily doesn't.. We are still friends.. and she is someone that I respect. Emily is 10 years younger then me, I still get advice from her when I need it or if I want to chat. I have seen her respond with more mature answers then me at times... I have not seen to many 22 year olds admit fault ever....or not very often. I see Emily post on this board and be willing to be open to others.... or correct something that she said that she wanted to clarify. I have found her to be very mature, open and absoultely hysterical to talk to.

I am not saying this to invalidate you or your feelings in anyway, I am saying this because I was wondering why if you had a problem with her, did you play games, not leave your name at first, then attack her? To me that is not a mature way to handel anything.

Seriously, this is an aduly forum, we all are going to disagree at times, it is only normal.. Please if you have a problem with someone, talk to them the way you would want someone to talk to you and also do it privately.

Thanks,
Jennifer

JennifersHope · Feb 28, 2006

I was hoping that this thread would go away because I hate it. I debated replying eariler but didn't but now I feel upset about it so I am going to share.

Superman Fan, You are really entitled to your feelings, thoughts and ideas as much as Emily is. When Emily made this post, she was venting and sharing her feelings. She didn't attack anyone.. or call anyone out...Knowing Emily through her posts and chatting with her, to me, It looks more like if anything she was comming behind Allie to support her. If you had your feelings hurt or were upset with Emily personally, why are you publically speaking about it?

She has private messages and in any relationship good, bad, or indifferent. It is best to directly go to the person you are upset with.. Not call them out publically.

...... Emily has proven herself to be a mature person at least in my veiws of her and from what I have seen from her.. I am a total Christian, believe in God with all my heart.. and as you know Emily doesn't.. We are still friends.. and she is someone that I respect. Emily is 10 years younger then me, I still get advice from her when I need it or if I want to chat. I have seen her respond with more mature answers then me at times... I have not seen to many 22 year olds admit fault ever....or not very often. I see Emily post on this board and be willing to be open to others.... or correct something that she said that she wanted to clarify. I have found her to be very mature, open and absoultely hysterical to talk to.

I am not saying this to invalidate you or your feelings in anyway, I am saying this because I was wondering why if you had a problem with her, did you play games, not leave your name at first, then attack her? To me that is not a mature way to handel anything.

Seriously, this is an aduly forum, we all are going to disagree at times, it is only normal.. Please if you have a problem with someone, talk to them the way you would want someone to talk to you and also do it privately.

Thanks,
Jennifer

anonymous · Feb 28, 2006

blah blah blah.. What?. You are now saying you guys had me pegged the other day? Right, like I believe that, but you sure couldn't come out and ask could you?

Did I ever call you an idiot? No, but you presume it: "Even if I'm "heartless" and "rude" and "attack people" and blah blah blah... that doesn't equate with me being an idiot. Of course I remember you." So when did I call you an idiot?

Your comment, "I think telling people that you can't possibly understand how their dead husbands wouldn't choose to live for them and their children is a really sh*tty thing to do. Deal with it. It's my belief." Do you think just because you believe something that you are right? It goes two ways. I too can say that if I can't comprehend someone not wanting a transplant and that I want to understand it, and ask for someone to explain it to me rationally that's my belief so you can deal with it.

Do you see what I'm saying? You attacked me, and yet you think what I said was bad so I have to deal with your opinion. Well let me clue you in... your opinion is not the only opinion in this world, and your opinion doesn't make you right. Your opinion might be right for you, but not others. You want me to deal with yours, but then sit there and tell me mine is $hitty. That is a very poor attitude in MY opinion. I don't care if you like it or not, but don't go harping on me just becuase you don't like it or agree with it. If you want to talk rationaly that's fine, but you are in no way rational at all with your posts. You are accusing, minipulating, and ruthless just to get what you want. You act like a little child. No one gets far with that attitude.

As I said before I thought we were friends, but you clearly showed your true colors to me. If you didn't like something I said you could have handled it in a more mature manner. I feel sorry for you, and I believe I read another anonymous poster say that about you as well. Now you have to think... if more than one person says it about you could there acutally be a problem with you, or is it everyone else in the world with the problem.

anonymous · Feb 28, 2006

blah blah blah.. What?. You are now saying you guys had me pegged the other day? Right, like I believe that, but you sure couldn't come out and ask could you?

Did I ever call you an idiot? No, but you presume it: "Even if I'm "heartless" and "rude" and "attack people" and blah blah blah... that doesn't equate with me being an idiot. Of course I remember you." So when did I call you an idiot?

Your comment, "I think telling people that you can't possibly understand how their dead husbands wouldn't choose to live for them and their children is a really sh*tty thing to do. Deal with it. It's my belief." Do you think just because you believe something that you are right? It goes two ways. I too can say that if I can't comprehend someone not wanting a transplant and that I want to understand it, and ask for someone to explain it to me rationally that's my belief so you can deal with it.

Do you see what I'm saying? You attacked me, and yet you think what I said was bad so I have to deal with your opinion. Well let me clue you in... your opinion is not the only opinion in this world, and your opinion doesn't make you right. Your opinion might be right for you, but not others. You want me to deal with yours, but then sit there and tell me mine is $hitty. That is a very poor attitude in MY opinion. I don't care if you like it or not, but don't go harping on me just becuase you don't like it or agree with it. If you want to talk rationaly that's fine, but you are in no way rational at all with your posts. You are accusing, minipulating, and ruthless just to get what you want. You act like a little child. No one gets far with that attitude.

As I said before I thought we were friends, but you clearly showed your true colors to me. If you didn't like something I said you could have handled it in a more mature manner. I feel sorry for you, and I believe I read another anonymous poster say that about you as well. Now you have to think... if more than one person says it about you could there acutally be a problem with you, or is it everyone else in the world with the problem.

Emily65Roses · Feb 28, 2006

Just to clarify, so no one thinks I'm a hypocrite...
Supermanfan, you are entitled to say you think what Ry did sucks. I am entitled to say I think your opinion about that sucks.
I am entitled to say that anyone who blames a CFer for dying young sucks. And you are entitled to say you think my opinion about it sucks.
That's the beauty of free speech.

As for god things, I'm more tolerant than some people might think. My "best friend" on this forum, I can say with confidence, is Allie. She's a big giant Jew(<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">), and we talk about religious / spiritual stuff all the time. She doesn't stuff it down my throat, and doesn't explain it to me unless I ask. I ask pretty often, because I appreciate that she respects what I believe (or rather, don't). So no, I don't believe. But I don't think everyone who does is an imbecile or *fill in negative adjective here*. The thing I tend to argue and stand behind is when people try to push their beliefs on other people, or make laws according to their own belief system.

Emily65Roses · Feb 28, 2006

Just to clarify, so no one thinks I'm a hypocrite...
Supermanfan, you are entitled to say you think what Ry did sucks. I am entitled to say I think your opinion about that sucks.
I am entitled to say that anyone who blames a CFer for dying young sucks. And you are entitled to say you think my opinion about it sucks.
That's the beauty of free speech.

As for god things, I'm more tolerant than some people might think. My "best friend" on this forum, I can say with confidence, is Allie. She's a big giant Jew(<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">), and we talk about religious / spiritual stuff all the time. She doesn't stuff it down my throat, and doesn't explain it to me unless I ask. I ask pretty often, because I appreciate that she respects what I believe (or rather, don't). So no, I don't believe. But I don't think everyone who does is an imbecile or *fill in negative adjective here*. The thing I tend to argue and stand behind is when people try to push their beliefs on other people, or make laws according to their own belief system.

Emily65Roses · Feb 28, 2006

<blockquote>Quote <hr>It would seem that you, who claims to be so smart and intelligent, can't figure things on your own.<hr></blockquote> That to me, is a condescending way of calling me an idiot. "Who claims" yeah, that screams attitude.

As for you having a right to your opinion, see the post I made before this one. I was making dinner, and added that after I came back upstairs.

And as far as knowing who you were, that doesn't really matter. Debbie and Allie and I sent messages back and forth last week talking about who you and the other anonymous were. But we didn't want to call anyone's name out because we thought it might be rude. HAH! Imagine that. Me, considering the feelings of others.

Emily65Roses · Feb 28, 2006

<blockquote>Quote <hr>It would seem that you, who claims to be so smart and intelligent, can't figure things on your own.<hr></blockquote> That to me, is a condescending way of calling me an idiot. "Who claims" yeah, that screams attitude.

As for you having a right to your opinion, see the post I made before this one. I was making dinner, and added that after I came back upstairs.

And as far as knowing who you were, that doesn't really matter. Debbie and Allie and I sent messages back and forth last week talking about who you and the other anonymous were. But we didn't want to call anyone's name out because we thought it might be rude. HAH! Imagine that. Me, considering the feelings of others.

miesl · Feb 28, 2006

Wow, if I'd have known your name sooner, supermanfan, I'd have called you out for the massive *insert naughty b word here* I think you are.

Really - insulting the memory of a dead man to his widow - the ultimate in uncool. I didn't reply to the original post because the reply I would have made was sure to get me banned.

miesl · Feb 28, 2006

Wow, if I'd have known your name sooner, supermanfan, I'd have called you out for the massive *insert naughty b word here* I think you are.

Really - insulting the memory of a dead man to his widow - the ultimate in uncool. I didn't reply to the original post because the reply I would have made was sure to get me banned.

Emily65Roses · Feb 28, 2006

<blockquote>Quote <hr> I feel sorry for you, and I believe I read another anonymous poster say that about you as well. Now you have to think... if more than one person says it about you could there acutally be a problem with you, or is it everyone else in the world with the problem.<hr></blockquote>

These are what we, in the educated world, call opinions. You and the other anonymous can feel sorry for me all you like. I don't give a d*mn. Just because two people think so doesn't mean it matters. I know a lot of other people who would disagree with you. So, if we're going strictly by numbers... it actually makes you wrong.

But numbers don't really count when it comes to opinions... because they are just that... OPINIONS. I don't think me and whoever else are right or wrong for not feeling sorry for me, and I don't think you're right or wrong for feeling that way. They're your feelings. You're entitled to those, same as you are your opinions.

Emily65Roses · Feb 28, 2006

<blockquote>Quote <hr> I feel sorry for you, and I believe I read another anonymous poster say that about you as well. Now you have to think... if more than one person says it about you could there acutally be a problem with you, or is it everyone else in the world with the problem.<hr></blockquote>

These are what we, in the educated world, call opinions. You and the other anonymous can feel sorry for me all you like. I don't give a d*mn. Just because two people think so doesn't mean it matters. I know a lot of other people who would disagree with you. So, if we're going strictly by numbers... it actually makes you wrong.

But numbers don't really count when it comes to opinions... because they are just that... OPINIONS. I don't think me and whoever else are right or wrong for not feeling sorry for me, and I don't think you're right or wrong for feeling that way. They're your feelings. You're entitled to those, same as you are your opinions.

JazzysMom · Feb 28, 2006

Tho this hasnt gotten as ugly or quite as nasty as it can YET, I think enough is enough. In MY opinion....can we please drop this!

JazzysMom · Feb 28, 2006

Tho this hasnt gotten as ugly or quite as nasty as it can YET, I think enough is enough. In MY opinion....can we please drop this!

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